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    <title>topic Re: A masterpiece RENDERING in LW in Visualization</title>
    <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Visualization/A-masterpiece-RENDERING-in-LW/m-p/80896#M18692</link>
    <description>I like his (censored) humility  &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_rolleyes.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2006 12:30:05 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2006-09-07T12:30:05Z</dc:date>
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      <title>A masterpiece RENDERING in LW</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Visualization/A-masterpiece-RENDERING-in-LW/m-p/80895#M18691</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV class="actalk-migrated-content"&gt;&lt;T&gt;As you can see (my attachment) I am a guru in Lightworks renderings. Way much better than Dwight. I used only archicad+lightworks for this picture and minor postwork in photoshop. But let me tell you one thing guys, one thing is for sure: lightworks suck, you cant even use plants or trees in this freaking program. Artlantis, formZ, accurender and so many other programs they suck TOO. Cinema 4d is only good for interior scenes. If you want to do professional renderings try only 3ds Max, Viz, Vray and maybe Lightwave too. Thats it simple and honest.&lt;/T&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;IMG src="http://community.graphisoft.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/73700i142C8957C879EE4E/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" border="0" alt="house1.jpg" title="house1.jpg" /&gt;</description>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-05-11T10:31:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: A masterpiece RENDERING in LW</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Visualization/A-masterpiece-RENDERING-in-LW/m-p/80896#M18692</link>
      <description>I like his (censored) humility  &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_rolleyes.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2006 12:30:05 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Visualization/A-masterpiece-RENDERING-in-LW/m-p/80896#M18692</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2006-09-07T12:30:05Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: A masterpiece RENDERING in LW</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Visualization/A-masterpiece-RENDERING-in-LW/m-p/80897#M18693</link>
      <description>I understand that in Italy some people drink their breakfast.</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2006 14:40:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Visualization/A-masterpiece-RENDERING-in-LW/m-p/80897#M18693</guid>
      <dc:creator>Dwight</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2006-09-07T14:40:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: A masterpiece RENDERING in LW</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Visualization/A-masterpiece-RENDERING-in-LW/m-p/80898#M18694</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;But let me tell you one thing guys, one thing is for sure: lightworks [censored], you cant even use plants or trees in this freaking program. Artlantis, formZ, accurender and so many other programs they [censored] TOO. Cinema 4d is only good for interior scenes. If you want to do professional renderings try only 3ds Max, Viz, Vray and maybe Lightwave too.&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

Oh my.., are you telling me we have been lied for all those years?  &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_eek.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt;  &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_sad.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt; &lt;BR /&gt;
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Man, it is good that somebody finally show us the outer world and break us free from the evil force of Dwight  -&amp;gt;  &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_twisted.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt; &lt;BR /&gt;
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Seriously: you should drop those self-esteem courses, it doesn't serve you very well.&lt;BR /&gt;
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Take care.</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2006 20:00:23 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Visualization/A-masterpiece-RENDERING-in-LW/m-p/80898#M18694</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2006-09-07T20:00:23Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: A masterpiece RENDERING in LW</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Visualization/A-masterpiece-RENDERING-in-LW/m-p/80899#M18695</link>
      <description>F.Y.I....&lt;BR /&gt;
C4D's not too bad on exterior renderings...</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2006 23:57:10 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Visualization/A-masterpiece-RENDERING-in-LW/m-p/80899#M18695</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2006-09-07T23:57:10Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: A masterpiece RENDERING in LW</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Visualization/A-masterpiece-RENDERING-in-LW/m-p/80900#M18696</link>
      <description>And C4D has all sorts of great add-ons for plants and skies and stuff.&lt;BR /&gt;
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I can't imagine it not being in the top three products for exteriors. There's a big firm in Phoenix that does all of their Archicad rendering with C4D and gets superior results.&lt;BR /&gt;
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Our Italian colleague is mainly correct in assessing the capabilities of the various applications, but who cares? If you are going to take the time to learn ANY other application for rendering once you have Archicad, then Artlantis is the logical step.&lt;BR /&gt;
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After that, I feel that the learning curve of the very best rendering applications is so great that it begins to interfere in the doing of architecture - the reason we are using software at all.&lt;BR /&gt;
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I've never been a promoter of LightWorks. It is simply what we have to work with. You have heard me complain before about the poor implementation Graphisoft has done. Just looking at the LightWorks web site has convinced me of its POTENTIAL to stand with the best, but not today in Archicad.&lt;BR /&gt;
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And, more directly to our Itlaian colleague: &lt;BR /&gt;
"What? Me guru?"&lt;BR /&gt;
I share the little that I discovered. &lt;BR /&gt;
Who here knows you, Mr Three Postings?</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 08 Sep 2006 00:10:48 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Visualization/A-masterpiece-RENDERING-in-LW/m-p/80900#M18696</guid>
      <dc:creator>Dwight</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2006-09-08T00:10:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: A masterpiece RENDERING in LW</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Visualization/A-masterpiece-RENDERING-in-LW/m-p/80901#M18697</link>
      <description>Definitions of Guru on the Web:&lt;BR /&gt;
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Literally the word guru means teacher. &lt;I&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;S&gt;&lt;I&gt;&lt;I&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/S&gt;Nope&lt;E&gt;&lt;/E&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
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Second level of its meaning is that the guru is a spiritual leader, a saint, an Enlightener. &lt;I&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;S&gt;&lt;I&gt;&lt;I&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/S&gt;Hardly&lt;E&gt;&lt;/E&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
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Nice water, though. &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_wink.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 08 Sep 2006 01:32:27 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Visualization/A-masterpiece-RENDERING-in-LW/m-p/80901#M18697</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2006-09-08T01:32:27Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: A masterpiece RENDERING in LW</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Visualization/A-masterpiece-RENDERING-in-LW/m-p/80902#M18698</link>
      <description>By the user name, it is a Ms, not a Mr</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 08 Sep 2006 12:11:31 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Visualization/A-masterpiece-RENDERING-in-LW/m-p/80902#M18698</guid>
      <dc:creator>Djordje</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2006-09-08T12:11:31Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: A masterpiece RENDERING in LW</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Visualization/A-masterpiece-RENDERING-in-LW/m-p/80903#M18699</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Marcella wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;As you can see (my attachment) I am a guru in Lightworks renderings. Way much better than Dwight. I used only archicad+lightworks for this picture and minor postwork in photoshop. But let me tell you one thing guys, one thing is for sure: lightworks &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;[censored]&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;, you cant even use plants or trees in this freaking program. Artlantis, formZ, accurender and so many other programs they &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;[censored]&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; TOO. Cinema 4d is only good for interior scenes. If you want to do professional renderings try only 3ds Max, Viz, Vray and maybe Lightwave too. Thats it simple and honest.&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

Translation: I learned 3ds Max, Viz, Vray in school and I'm not smart/motivated  enough to learn anything that isn't spoon-fed to me.</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 08 Sep 2006 12:39:15 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Visualization/A-masterpiece-RENDERING-in-LW/m-p/80903#M18699</guid>
      <dc:creator>TomWaltz</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2006-09-08T12:39:15Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: A masterpiece RENDERING in LW</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Visualization/A-masterpiece-RENDERING-in-LW/m-p/80904#M18700</link>
      <description>Also:&lt;BR /&gt;
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I am so smart and good that all of you old geezers s+u+c+k</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 08 Sep 2006 12:42:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Visualization/A-masterpiece-RENDERING-in-LW/m-p/80904#M18700</guid>
      <dc:creator>Djordje</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2006-09-08T12:42:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: A masterpiece RENDERING in LW</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Visualization/A-masterpiece-RENDERING-in-LW/m-p/80905#M18701</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;After that, I feel that the learning curve of the very best rendering applications is so great that it begins to interfere in the doing of architecture - the reason we are using software at all. &lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

True. That is exactly why I like to work with LW. It is primitive (ACad implant) comparing to stand-alone renderers but because of that you can focus on modeling which should be our priority. You can see so much excelent presentations of very poor architecture these days so it is really not about the software.&lt;BR /&gt;
From the other hand - superior quality of the newest renderers is just enticing and can be inspirational in our work as well, so I think balance is the key.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
BTW: Great one, Justin.</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 08 Sep 2006 18:05:34 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2006-09-08T18:05:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: A masterpiece RENDERING in LW</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Visualization/A-masterpiece-RENDERING-in-LW/m-p/80906#M18702</link>
      <description>Thx Tigr,&lt;BR /&gt;
Interesting theory on renderers but IME, texturing &amp;amp; rendering doesn't happen until after the model is made.  If a structure is not acceptable as a basic model, then no amount of good illustrator work will make it 'standup'.  Sure it helps, but if it only looks good when you stand on your head &amp;amp; squint at it sideways, it just isn't good work.  A good illustrator will tell you that their work is made so much easier when the architecture speaks for itself &amp;amp; their work is just purely putting it into context.&lt;BR /&gt;
My preference for higher end renderers is mainly because I outgrew your more basic type packages that just don't light a model accurately enough.  The step up was a bit daunting, but with a basic understanding of your Artlantis's, etc it's not insurmountable.&lt;BR /&gt;
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But hey, it's just what worked for me I guess...</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 00:05:31 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2006-09-11T00:05:31Z</dc:date>
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      <description>I always find poolside renderings without people a little creepy. Sort of like a picture taken right after the nuclear radiation clears.</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 00:34:08 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Visualization/A-masterpiece-RENDERING-in-LW/m-p/80907#M18703</guid>
      <dc:creator>Richard Morrison</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2006-09-11T00:34:08Z</dc:date>
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