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The End is near

Anonymous — Thu, 11 May 2023 11:46:32 GMT

I got this today by e-mail... Some Horrid, some not too Horrid, but still bad...., wonder what's next

February 18, 2005

AAI HomePlans.com
AG & Associates, Inc.
5207 Rokefield Way
Norcross, Georgia 30092 – 1232
Tel: (770) 242-7809
Fax: (770) 242-0871
staff@aaihomeplans.com

RE: Architecture Rendering Outsourcing
Looking for Long-Term Cooperation

Dear Sir or Madam:

Thank you for reading this email. We are a professional architecture rendering company in China, with proven experience internationally. You may never heard us before, it is because before 2005 we only make house plans to middle men and through them sell to real buyers including houseplans.com. In 2004, for houseplans.com only we produced nearly 1,000 plans. We are experienced with any kinds of styles of plans with the fastest efficiency.

Since we are located at the bottom of the supply chain, we could produce a plan for you at the lowest price of $50USD without sacrificing the quality. Please take a minute of your valuable time to visit our web site (link provided below) to examine the quality of our work and then please contact us for more detail.

We guarantee the PREMIUM QUALITY of our product and service, the LOWEST PRICES in the industry and ON TIME DELIVERY.

We are looking for long term business relationship with you to become your rendering factory, so you can concentrate on the most important marketing endeavor. It will be a win-win relationship for both of us.

Thank you for your attention and I am looking forward to hearing from you very soon!

Yours sincerely

Mr. Bob Yang
CEO
Splendo Net Studio
http://www.china-out-sourcing.com/exterior.htm
Email: ceo@china-out-sourcing.com

Re: The End is near

Anonymous — Fri, 18 Feb 2005 15:55:00 GMT

Rashid wrote:
I got this today by e-mail... Some Horrid, some not too Horrid, but still bad...., wonder what's next

"...Since we are located at the bottom of the supply chain, we could produce a plan for you at the lowest price of $50USD without sacrificing the quality...
...We guarantee the PREMIUM QUALITY of our product and service, the LOWEST PRICES in the industry and ON TIME DELIVERY...."

OUCH! I'm not a big fan of trade barriers but this could be an industry killer.

Re: The End is near

Anonymous — Fri, 18 Feb 2005 16:09:41 GMT

Without sacrificing quality.

I am located in Arizona. I had a client a year or so ago who decided to have structural work for an 8,000 sq. ft residence done out of state to save a measly $500 on the job.

To date, it has cost him over $20,000 in errors in the field.

You get what you pay for.

Grant

Re: The End is near

Rick Thompson — Fri, 18 Feb 2005 19:52:05 GMT

In reference to the quality... they are renderings, not engineering, and they don't look bad to me... but not my style, so I'm not interested.

I know houseplans.com, they resale some of my plans. (in fact the bungalow on the index page is an AC rendering (Artlantis). I called the owner up, who is an Architect. He said they bought about 900 plans and had them do the renderings, but paid $100 each, not $50... and based on 900 of them. He said they were very professional and have actually sent more to them.

Ahhh.. the world economy... the global equalizer is upon us:)))

Re: The End is near

Rick Thompson — Wed, 02 Mar 2005 19:22:10 GMT

I just got this email from the person who had those 1000 renderings done. I had gotten one of the same emails the next day that started this thread. So, this thread has lead to something:)

"BTW: The email you received from China was a fake. The guy that sent it was fired from the company that we use, doesn't have the technicians to do the work, and is illegally using our images on his website. I hope he has a good attorney!

Jeff"

Re: The End is near

Rob — Wed, 02 Mar 2005 22:09:18 GMT

OUCH! I'm not a big fan of trade barriers but this could be an industry killer.

...and it will be, mate. the final countdown has already become...

Re: The End is near

Anonymous — Tue, 13 Sep 2005 00:50:02 GMT

Dear Sirs, thank you for your comments.

We enter this industry by offering our best service. We do honesty work and get decent pay, nothing wrong with it.

We never approach anyone at retail level, only coordinate with wholesalers. It protects your profit margin and increased your efficiency.

It is a good opportunity for anyone who realizes it to utilize our services. Outsourcing is a trend of the world.

We are not the industry killer, but a reliable service provider. Thank you.

Bob Yang

Re: The End is near

Anonymous — Thu, 15 Sep 2005 03:58:16 GMT

Iin my opinion this is a killer. First we let them make renderings for 50$ (100$ whatever) then if no one will stop it they will start doing projects etc, etc. How many people will lose jobs because of that ? Maybe in China this 50$ is a lot of money and they can live for that, but those jobless renderers will have to face high costs of living here. Second thing is - I doubt if the use legal software for making those renderings. We have to face problem of buying expensive software. But if no one here will buy software, and they will not buy the software - that will kill also other industry. I hope we will be able to protect ourselfs against that kind of job stilling.

Re: The End is near

Steve Jepson — Thu, 15 Sep 2005 18:08:17 GMT

hmmmm... I think I will move to China and put you all out of business.

Re: The End is near

TomWaltz — Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:28:36 GMT

Bob wrote:
Outsourcing is a trend of the world.

So were sweatshops, until the unions took over.... unions will grow and hold employers hostage in other countries eventually.....

Re: The End is near

Ignacio Azpiazu — Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:51:46 GMT

Err I guess you'd better use the headstart (and invest the costs) you have by being a professional located in the US to do something other than renderings for production home manufacturers that you can train a bunch of 20 year olds to mass-produce from China.

Re: The End is near

Anonymous — Fri, 16 Sep 2005 13:09:02 GMT

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outsourcing, in my opinion is not a trend of the world, it is a trend of short sighted stupidity in executives. I was speaking with a colleague yesterday about outsourcing, and it's really disturbing how much work is being moved out of country, and not only work but also money, it's a slightly different situation, granted, but take a look at how many American banks are being bought by foreign banks, or just moving offshore, ABN-AMRO/StandardFedral (now LaSalle) which is one of the largest banks in the country, now offshore, Citizens Financial group / charter one is now owned by the royal bank of scotland, plc. , ever retail credit card you get is owned by HSBC... which is hong kong shanghai banking corporation....There's too many to list, and to be hoenst I wouldn't be surprised if Bank of America was owned by a foreign bank. So much of America's assets and capital as a country is being moved out of the country, it's frightening to think that with this trend, some of these countries could cripple America by pulling the carpet out from underneath us. anyway though I'm going to stop now... I might be off-base in my statement, but I havent had coffee yet, and.. it's Friday.

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Re: The End is near

Anonymous — Fri, 16 Sep 2005 16:59:16 GMT

Interesting thoughts on the subject are in "The World is Flat" by Thomas L. Friedman.

There will always be good & bad outsourcers.
But the trend will not go away.
How are you/I going to respond to the reality?

(If you wish to rail about it, you best avoid 98% of N. America retailers & 99% of the products sold as it's all part of a changed world)

Does anyone have leads for a reliable outsource who uses AC?
I'm serious!

Re: The End is near

Djordje — Sat, 17 Sep 2005 03:22:16 GMT

Daniel wrote:
outsourcing, in my opinion is not a trend of the world, it is a trend of short sighted stupidity in executives.

If you take a good look at anything you use/wear, it is made in China. So ... it is a reality, good or bad, depends where in the outsourcing chain you are.

Re: The End is near

Rick Thompson — Sat, 17 Sep 2005 14:50:56 GMT

I out source... to a Hungarian AC user. What's the difference, I'm in the US and he's on the other side of the planet. It works great for me, and I hope him. Am I contributing to the demise of western dominance? I hope so:)

The great equalizer is upon us, I love the internet and the opportunities it brings us. Adjust or be adjusted.. is it evolution or creationism:)

Re: The End is near

Petros Ioannou — Sat, 17 Sep 2005 16:54:07 GMT

Reading all of the above, a crazy(?) thought stroke me...
Imagine a Chinese BIM solution!
How GS and Autode$k would respond to that? hmmm

Petros

Re: The End is near

Anonymous — Sat, 17 Sep 2005 19:27:55 GMT

September 17, 2005

It is very interesting in reading your comments. I am happy that our web site is up again. There, we showed certain our recent works including water color. Quality is always our first concern. We are good guys AND we use ArchiCAD nicely, so don’t shoot us!

Yours

Bob Yang
CEO
Splendo Net Studio
www.china-out-sourcing.com
Email: ceo@china-out-sourcing.com

Re: The End is near

Anonymous — Sat, 17 Sep 2005 19:47:18 GMT

URGENT!

September 18, 2005

Dear Rashid,

Got your email of today, but it looks like the band of your web site has been blocked by …. So you may have trouble to receive my email, but I did receive yours.

Try to use another email address, which does not associate with the name of your website. Get off from that band of server so we have no problem of communicating if you may.

Bob
ceo@china-out-sourcing.com

Re: The End is near

TomWaltz — Sat, 17 Sep 2005 20:39:48 GMT

Bob wrote:
September 17, 2005

It is very interesting in reading your comments. I am happy that our web site is up again. There, we showed certain our recent works including water color. Quality is always our first concern. We are good guys AND we use ArchiCAD nicely, so don’t shoot us!

The rendering technique is not bad, but the trees that are visible through the windows distract from the image a lot..... and I really think this belongs in the "Ads" section.

Re: The End is near

Anonymous — Mon, 19 Sep 2005 21:44:52 GMT

And if you want to get really scared by the negative side of those who are abusing outsourcing (hint: most major North American retailers but some REALLY bad), read Naomi Klien's "No Logo"

(Full disclosure: She is a fellow Canuck [Canadian] who is involved with myself & Dwight in a plot to allow Canada to take over the world & force you all to eat poutine & beaver tails):P

Be prepared to forgo McDonald's & Walmart forever.