topic Re: HELP: Sketch Styles: shadow lines in Visualization

HELP: Sketch Styles: shadow lines

Anonymous — Thu, 11 May 2023 11:46:52 GMT

Is there some trick or technique to removing the shadow edge lines from the sketch styles? I've seen several images on this forum showing images without them; but i've been unable to replicate the effect.

Have tried turning off each section of the sketch style interface, and it seems dependent on the 'sketch line settings' and no others. Have also tried rendering w/ different 3d window settings (open GL, internal engine, hidden line, etc, etc, etc.) all to no avail?

Any suggestions? Attached is an image to clarify what lines i'm talking about.

Also would like to know if there is a good way to get rid of the vertical-wall joints between walls on diff. stories (yellow arrow).

Re: HELP: Sketch Styles: shadow lines

Anonymous — Tue, 04 Jan 2005 21:19:20 GMT

Jason,

I haven't logged in for awhile. Have you had any luck resovlving these problems. I have had success removing the line between the shadow in version 8.1 but not in 9.0. In regards to the line of the slab showing through I have not had any success using the sketch engine without adding a siding skin on the outside of the building but its a real pain. Let me know if you are running 8.1 and I will elaborate on the setting in the 3d setting. Please let me know if you have had any luck with this problem in 9.0 or if anyone else has resolved this problem in 9.0. I have attached a jpeg from 9.0.

Thanks,
Jim

Re: HELP: Sketch Styles: shadow lines

TDabney — Tue, 04 Jan 2005 22:01:13 GMT

I was just logging on to ask the same question regarding the "outline" of shadows and how to get rid of them. They didn't exist in AC8.1 for me either, and I can't get rid of them in AC9.0 - has anyone had success or any thoughts?
Thanks, Tom

Re: HELP: Sketch Styles: shadow lines

Anonymous — Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:44:39 GMT

Graphisoft any help with this post . Is there a work around for this issue? Thanks.

Re: HELP: Sketch Styles: shadow lines

Jefferson — Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:17:14 GMT

Tom and Jim,

Would you guys mind elaborating of even a giving a screen shot of your 3D settings to eliminate the shadow "outline" lines in the sketch settings. Thanks

Re: HELP: Sketch Styles: shadow lines

Anonymous — Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:45:55 GMT

Jeff,

I do not know how to get a screen shot of my 3d settings box. Can you give me a little help and I will post as an attachment. Also attached a jpg of a 8.1 showing the shadows with no outllines. I will also attached the same view with the same settings in 9.0. Are you using 8.1 or 9.0?

Re: HELP: Sketch Styles: shadow lines

Anonymous — Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:47:16 GMT

Here is the same view in 9.0 with the same settings note the shadows are now outlined

Jim

Re: HELP: Sketch Styles: shadow lines

Jefferson — Sun, 23 Jan 2005 00:44:26 GMT

Jim,

Still an 8.1 guy here, I'm about a year behind the upgrade curve.........

To get a screen shot, on your keyboard, it varies from one to another, is a "printscreen" key-or some facimilie(sp?) of that title-, by hitting that key you copy what you see on your screen to the clipboard. Then I open a new-blank photoshop file and paste [ctrl+v] then save as a .jpg. If you don't have photoshop the default windows picture or photo-editing program should allow the same procedure. You might have to set the resolution-image size to something small enough to fit the upload criteria of our talk-board. Converting to black and white gives a significant reduction.

Hope that gets it for you, and me

I appreciate the effort to show me the settings.

Re: HELP: Sketch Styles: shadow lines

Jefferson — Sun, 23 Jan 2005 01:01:06 GMT

Jim,

back again.............upon closer examination of the two renderings,there are several subtle differences. Some shadows, outlines of tree trunks, ridges on the roofs, and walls are literally missing from the 8.1 version, opposed to the 9 ver. Your settings are the same, right?

I would, if I were using 9, get in touch with tech support and hound them for some help on this. For me the sketch engine is one of the most valuable parts of the whole rendering package and the need to understand it's nuances are critical.

Re: HELP: Sketch Styles: shadow lines

Anonymous — Sun, 23 Jan 2005 02:52:15 GMT

Jeff,

Attached 3d setting for 8.1 and 9.0 will follow. I have experianced missing ridge lines in both 8.1 and 9.0 and have always touched up in photoshop. In regards to the tree trunks I have noticed that both in 7.0 and 8.1 the program had a hard time defining the edge of a cylinder when rendered. Maybe 9.0 is handling these conditions now? Will have to look into this later. It looked to me like the sun azimuth or altitude for the camera was different however I checked both cameras and they are the same. Maybe I didn't rebuild. Currently I all have one project going in 9.0 (the other projects are either in 7.0 or 8.1 and I will keep working in those versions, I have not found it worth while to bring projects forward) But since the 9.0 project it is at stage I need to render for client approval and since these shadow outlines bug the heck out of me I guess I will need to contact graphisoft.

Thanks,
Jim

Re: HELP: Sketch Styles: shadow lines

Anonymous — Sun, 23 Jan 2005 02:56:32 GMT

and the settting in 9.0

Re: HELP: Sketch Styles: shadow lines

Djordje — Mon, 24 Jan 2005 17:40:46 GMT

jmaul wrote:
I do not know how to get a screen shot of my 3d settings box.

With the box on the screen, hit PrtScrn button. Open Paint (Photoshop, any image editing software), make new document and Paste. Crop if necessary and save.

Viola! (c) Duane

Re: HELP: Sketch Styles: shadow lines

Jefferson — Mon, 24 Jan 2005 17:48:09 GMT

Djordje,

It seems as though Jim's already got it, [see attached screen shots of 3D settings]

....and thanks Jim!

Re: HELP: Sketch Styles: shadow lines

Anonymous — Mon, 24 Jan 2005 20:26:00 GMT

Djordje,

Thanks, for the reply regarding screen shot. Hey do you have any idea if it is possible to eliminate the line around the shadows in 9.0 when you render using the sketch engine. I was able to in 8.1 but not 9.0.

Thanks again,

Jim

Re: HELP: Sketch Styles: shadow lines

Steve Jepson — Tue, 08 Feb 2005 20:57:26 GMT

jmaul,

Did you ever get an answer to your question about the line around the shadows in 9.0? Or figure out how to do it? I would also like to know about how to do that.

Re: HELP: Sketch Styles: shadow lines

Anonymous — Tue, 08 Feb 2005 21:31:44 GMT

Sorry no luck, played with it for a couple of hours but didn't get anywhere. Should you have any luck please post.

Thanks,
Jim

Re: HELP: Sketch Styles: shadow lines

Anonymous — Tue, 29 Mar 2005 00:11:39 GMT

I haven't logged in for awhile. Have you had any luck resovlving these problems.

Hi Jmaul,

No, I have not had any luck in fixing this. My work around was to render everything twice: once with shadows, once without. Then overlay in photoshop w/ less transparency for the one w/ shadows. Lame, but it sorta works.

Actually I'm really suprised the ArchiCAD staff have not fixed this. It seems like the kind of thing that everybody who uses sketch styles would have problems with.

Re: HELP: Sketch Styles: shadow lines

Anonymous — Tue, 29 Mar 2005 15:11:56 GMT

jmaul,

How did you make your rendering?
It looks nice.
Please teach.

Re: HELP: Sketch Styles: shadow lines

Anonymous — Wed, 30 Mar 2005 16:20:04 GMT

samsung,

Thank you for the compliment. I have found that my renderings always look better the more I model the building. ( I.e. rafter tails, facia, and the like) Which can take a far amount of time. However, there is a great amount of information in this forum on ways to model different parts of the building efficiently. Also, I have made a few custom fills to model different materials, for example the architect I work for uses alot of standing seam metal roofs with 20" pans, so I have made a fill to represent. The rendering settings in the sketch engine are attached. If the project is in 8.1 I turn shadows on in the photorendering settings, and until the outline around shadows in 9.0 is fixed I turn them off in 9.0 Personally I like to set my cameras down around eye level for presentation to clients. Also like to put some veggi's in but make sure shadows are off otherwise they will take forever to render. If you have any specific questions please let me know. Also JasonBarish thanks for the info regarding the rendering twice and then going to photoshop.

Jim