topic Re: SKY AND SUN OBJECT UPDATING in Visualization

SKY AND SUN OBJECT UPDATING

Dwight — Thu, 11 May 2023 11:20:47 GMT

There's been talk about problems having the sky and sun objects, when linked to the sun attitude as set in the view camera, failing to update when the sun attitude is changed.

I have been advising people that to update these objects it is necessary to rebuild the 3D view and the plan view in order to see the update.

This is flawed advice. Just this morning, I am also experiencing the problem that a general rebuild doesn't update the objects and now post yet another solution:

I've got the sky and sun objects updating WHEN THEY ARE SELECTED IN THE PLAN and then the plan is rebuilt. That seems to work in all situations.

Binary boogles...

Re: SKY AND SUN OBJECT UPDATING

LiHigh — Sat, 14 May 2005 01:42:59 GMT

LW is no longer my primary renderer. It's just has way too much problem!

Re: SKY AND SUN OBJECT UPDATING

Dwight — Sat, 14 May 2005 01:45:45 GMT

I know what you mean. Even though I am getting pretty good in it, and it does serve a valid purpose, I find myself relying more and more on the 4B and lots of encouraging nodding. The kind with raised eyebrows and a slight smile....

Re: SKY AND SUN OBJECT UPDATING

LiHigh — Sat, 14 May 2005 01:55:34 GMT

Dwight, the sad thing is I'm now using Internal 3D Engine+Internal Rendering Engine most of the time!!!!!!

Re: SKY AND SUN OBJECT UPDATING

Dwight — Sat, 14 May 2005 01:59:17 GMT

I have become deaf. I cannot hear you.

Re: SKY AND SUN OBJECT UPDATING

__archiben — Sat, 14 May 2005 04:44:42 GMT

Dwight wrote:
Just this morning, I am also experiencing the problem that a general rebuild doesn't update the objects and now post yet another solution:

I've got the sky and sun objects updating WHEN THEY ARE SELECTED IN THE PLAN and then the plan is rebuilt. That seems to work in all situations.

thought it was something i was doing wrong . . . thanks for that.

~/archiben

Re: SKY AND SUN OBJECT UPDATING

Dwight — Sat, 14 May 2005 04:48:42 GMT

Well, if your sun and sky objects weren't updating, you WERE DOING SOMETHING WRONG!

You weren't selecting them for the rebuild. haha.

So much of what I do uses selections [that include the sunandskyobjek] that I never noticed the problem. sheesh.

Re: SKY AND SUN OBJECT UPDATING

__archiben — Sat, 14 May 2005 04:59:43 GMT

Dwight wrote:
So much of what I do uses selections [that include the sunandskyobjek] that I never noticed the problem. sheesh.

don't you find it a pain in the proverbial to keep moving the sunandskyobjeks around with you all the time?

i'm hoping that they're actually an intermediate 'scissors and cellotape' solution for the real sun and sky. is there any reason why they have to be objects and not simply configurable in the PhotoRendering Settings>Effects/Light Sources tab? (where they should be!) and if not has anybody sent that through to GS as a request . . ?

~/archiben

Re: SKY AND SUN OBJECT UPDATING

Dwight — Sat, 14 May 2005 05:09:09 GMT

its a hack.

Since the built-in sun has so few editable qualities, somebody scrambled to fix it.

My guess is that it will get fixed - making the sunadskythingy obsolete, but there needs to be a fundamental change to the GDL lighting calculation data.....

I held off on the book to see if there would be a fix, but no such luck - have about 20 pages just on sunandskyandgenerallight tricks to light scenes

For instance, here's pre-dawn

Re: SKY AND SUN OBJECT UPDATING

Anonymous — Sat, 21 May 2005 22:21:33 GMT

Phew - I'm glad to hear it wasn't just me.

Re: SKY AND SUN OBJECT UPDATING

Dwight — Sat, 21 May 2005 22:28:17 GMT

We are starting a twelve step group for people whose lives became unmanageable through their inability to cope with the flakey sun object.

It's not the first ArchiCOPE group, however. Like Tyler Durden and Marla Singer in "Fight Club," there would be an argument over what groups to go to:

"You can have Sun Objects Anonymous on Tuesdays, I get Can't Get A Particular Material Dialog To Come Up Even After I Shift-Click Its Parent Object Anonymous on Thursdays."

Today it is the marvels of masking.