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New One Interior

Anonymous — Thu, 11 May 2023 14:01:47 GMT

Re: New One Interior

Anonymous — Tue, 18 May 2004 03:59:45 GMT

I don't like it one bit..... I Love it! Very inspirational photo-realistic work. Watching you drop these bombshell renderings over the past month makes me wonder how long you have kept them stashed away?

Are we watching work in progress, or a history of work? Interested in how long it takes to set up a scene such as this. Remembering the techniques and times from ArchiContest, a rendering such as this would take approx. 100 hrs. beginning to end result. Of course after the initial set-up the scene could be rendered from many angles quickly.

Please eloborate. Is this is truly a direction architecture should? If so then the clients for this type of work (Firms and Public) need to educated as to time and expense.

Mark Burginger

Re: New One Interior

Anonymous — Tue, 18 May 2004 04:35:27 GMT

how long you have kept them stashed away? that one just 15min i finish and i posting .)
that before more that 15min like 20. .)

Are we watching work in progress, or a history of work?

Yes that all 4 images 2 Last Exteriors + 2 Last Interiors is for the same project.

Expansion of GOLF PALACE 5 Stars hotel in Marakesh Morocco.
Images make for PARIS Hotel publicity for season 2005-2006

Interested in how long it takes to set up a scene such as this

DAY=12-14H

1 day modeling
2 day of texturing and light setup
3-4h. PhotoShop compositing.

Of course after the initial set-up the scene could be rendered from many angles quickly.

close to IMPOSSIBLE!!!

for interiors i rendered some like 30-40h! Exteriors i work in photoshop 10-15h!

I start setup scene after find the camera placement is easy and faster.
for me and clients.

Is this is truly a direction architecture should

Last one work is give to me from Interior design firm Arte+ (France Paris)Mr.Jean Baptiste BARIAN *DECORATEUR* who work intro that hotel expansion interior design

Exterior Shots coming from firm JARDISSIMO S.A.R.L. (Swiss) that is Landscape architect Daniel Berger.

other work who you see from me is freom different clients including Architects Landscape Architects Designers ..........

all of Pictures who i show is make the last 1 year

i will see what of the projects i save the ArchiCAD files and meshes Exports ...... and i will show Making Of if have interest !

Re: New One Interior

Djordje — Tue, 18 May 2004 06:19:56 GMT

"IvanG" wrote:
new one think for chit chat

From now on, please post just the link. People who want to see will see. If you want to post the image, reduce it.

This is for the benefit of the Talkers on slow dialup connections.

Thanks for consideration!

Re: New One Interior

Anonymous — Tue, 18 May 2004 10:24:41 GMT

Djordje

Bye

Re: New One Interior

Eduardo Rolon — Tue, 18 May 2004 14:14:10 GMT

The only thing I am able to critique and I am really being a Nitpick on this is that there is a repeating pattern on the floortiles ( material flipped on horizontal and vert directions). It is very faint but you can see it in the diagonal line going from the center of the image up to the furniture in the top right part of the image.
Let me be clear this is a great image and I was hard pressed to find anything that could be wrong with it. My recommendation is that instead of using one tile and flipping it on both axes just create a 4x4 tile map or 6x6 with different patterns each.
Another option if you are using 3DS Max is to create a tile using procedural maps so that nothing repeats.
Again it is very faint but it is the only thing I would improve and the only way I found it was by looking in the image for repeating patterns.

Re: New One Interior

Anonymous — Tue, 18 May 2004 15:31:10 GMT

IvanG wrote:
Last one work is give to me from Interior design firm Arte+ (France Paris)Mr.Jean Baptiste BARIAN *DECORATEUR* who work intro that hotel expansion interior design

Exterior Shots coming from firm JARDISSIMO S.A.R.L. (Swiss) that is Landscape architect Daniel Berger.

other work who you see from me is freom different clients including Architects Landscape Architects Designers ..........

all of Pictures who i show is make the last 1 year

i will see what of the projects i save the ArchiCAD files and meshes Exports ...... and i will show Making Of if have interest !

Whew! Thanks, nice to see someone unfold the inner workings of a rendering artist. Thanks for your post, as a great admirer of properly rendered and presented architectural projects it is helpful to hear the specific stories and details of doing this type of work. I.E., clients and their models, do some of these firms send you their DXF or do you sometimes model from their plans? Why use ArchiCAD? Obviously you have experience in other modelling programs. How does the word get out about your work? Advertising or word of mouth? These are things that are interesting to talk about because many of us are building our business and networking is a great way to learn and grow. Too often business type details are not shared on this TALK. Why be afraid to share the secrets of success? I am not directing this retorical question to you personnally but rather to the group.

For example, last year I earned 80 times more from Construction Documents and traditional architectural design than from rendering. Each CD project involved hidden line renders which were plotted but time never permitted such eloborate color renderings. My guess is that the large projects we see here have budgets for renderings. Are these budgets getting bigger as the clients see the benifits of such work? How does 2003 compare to 1999 for example?

Think of the opportunity for many of us talkers in the larger cities to act as AGENTS for talented individuals such as yourself. Educated and involved agents who can work directly with the larger clients. I have come to know of many ArchiCAD based rendering artists who frequent this discussion group. Providing a connection between them and the firms with a real need for this type of work could perhaps be the focus of another thread here at ArchiCad Talk. What do you think Djordje? How could such a thread be structured to provide opportunities for rendering specialists?

Mark Burginger

Re: New One Interior

Djordje — Tue, 18 May 2004 15:43:56 GMT

IvanG wrote:
Djordje

Bye

Meaning what?

Re: New One Interior

Anonymous — Tue, 18 May 2004 16:45:55 GMT

Djordje wrote:
IvanG wrote:
Djordje

Bye
Meaning what?

Djordje,

Perhaps he forgot to capitalize. It stands for "Bring Your Enthusiasm"

It trust it doesn't mean that he is leaving us. That would be a serious loss.

I, for one, am wondering when I can come up with a project that could make use of his exceptional talents.

Three cheers Ivan. Keep it up!

Re: New One Interior

Ben Odonnell — Tue, 18 May 2004 18:41:05 GMT

Ivan.
WOW! Keep up the inspirational work! Goes running back to Lightwave

Cheers.
Ben

Re: New One Interior

Anonymous — Wed, 19 May 2004 05:32:30 GMT

O.K., I can't believe it. Two grown men acting like kids.

Ivan for pulling his images and Djordje for slapping him on the wrist for posting them.

Duffus both.

#1. This is a place to be helpful, inspiring and friendly.

#2. The rules are set up for posting and as long as you are within those technical rules then post all you want. Last time I looked at my watch it was May 18, 2004 - DSL and Modem are common and if you are not with it, then you are the one who needs to think twice before reading this web site. The tail does not wag the dog.

Go ahead and edit my post.

Mark

Re: New One Interior

Djordje — Wed, 19 May 2004 05:53:08 GMT

Burginger wrote:
O.K., I can't believe it. Two grown men acting like kids.

Ivan for pulling his images and Djordje for slapping him on the wrist for posting them.

Duffus both.

#1. This is a place to be helpful, inspiring and friendly.

#2. The rules are set up for posting and as long as you are within those technical rules then post all you want. Last time I looked at my watch it was May 18, 2004 - DSL and Modem are common and if you are not with it, then you are the one who needs to think twice before reading this web site. The tail does not wag the dog.

Go ahead and edit my post.

Mark

Well, Mark ...

1. I would not ask for the resizing of the images if there were no complaints; there were complaints, and despite the excellence of the work, the sheer size of the images made it extremely slow to use the Forum on a slower dialup. This had nothing to do with slapping the wrist. It was merely ASKING to be considerate to fellow Talkers. Him or anyone else.

2. If Ivan felt so offended by my request that he felt that his images should be pulled, without previous discussion to try to resolve the situation, well, nothing I can do there but regret his decision, as the quality of his work is, to put it mildly, staggering.

I for one am very sad because of his decision, and feel that the Forum lost a lot.

Last time I looked at a headline of a local newspaper it was Rabi Ul Awwal 1425, which is the same where Ivan is ... so don't measure everything by your yardstick. As you rightly said, this is a place to be helpful, inspiring and friendly.

Re: New One Interior

Anonymous — Wed, 19 May 2004 16:02:35 GMT

One way of responding:

From now on, please post just the link. People who want to see will see. If you want to post the image, reduce it.

This is for the benefit of the Talkers on slow dialup connections.

---
Another way:

Great image, thanks and yes a tutortial would be very interesting.

I have received several requests that the posted images download slowly for dialup connections. Due to this I will be changing the discussion group settings so that images larger than 2,000 bytes are resized in the post. As time goes by we will fine tune the new ArchiCAD-TALK to the benefit of all users.

Looking forward to your future posts.

Re: New One Interior

Anonymous — Wed, 19 May 2004 17:24:32 GMT

Djordje wrote:
1. I would not ask for the resizing of the images if there were no complaints; there were complaints...

As this is the Presentation - Rendering and Multimedia forum, wouldn't it be wiser to place a "disclaimer" in the Forum Index that would explaining that downloading and viewing times will be sloooow for dial-up connections. It sucks to get complaints, but put them in perspective...they are coming from people that lack the technological advancements that many in this forum enjoy....

Seriously...Does anyone take seriously any complaints from AC6.5 or 7.0 users that their software lacks capabilities earned in 8.1? What do we tell them...

UPGRADE!

Djordje wrote:
I for one am very sad because of his decision, and feel that the Forum lost a lot.

sad indeed...

Re: New One Interior

Djordje — Wed, 19 May 2004 20:08:14 GMT

http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?p=14793#14793

Re: New One Interior

Wokka — Thu, 20 May 2004 04:49:53 GMT

"Richard Schlangen" wrote:

UPGRADE!

Richard,
I'd love to upgrade!
I'm a full time architectural renderer using Archicad and Cinema 4D for images and animations. Because I choose to live 90km from the centre of 'civilisation', our great phone company cannot provide broadband internet access. I'm not prepared to move just to get good service so I deal with the hassle. On most other posts, the images/animations are linked to a seperate web site so I download stuff overnight or go make a coffee because I have the choice of looking or not.
Yes, lots of the world has good connections but you shouldn't dismiss all the 'other' folk who CAN'T get the connection and besides, the mountain lifestyle is a bit more important to me.
Luckily forums like this one, CGArchitect etc all have rules for uploading images and users should stick to them. When everyone has a choice of access, then the limits can be increased.

Cheers

Re: New One Interior

Anonymous — Thu, 20 May 2004 07:10:23 GMT

Wokka

i am too on DialUp 56k modem

but i wait 2 time one time for upload for you can See something

and 2 time for check that Link of Work for i am sure all work

i not see any problem wit 150 200k Images but that is your problems

i will be happy if you post your work for see on 640x460 A0 rendered on 3000 or 4000

thanks for attentions

Sorry for my bad english

and second thing

get off all spywhares toryans horses and viruses from your PC who EATING your transfer i mean that can help you

PS. Opening to many Browser pages get a lots of memory and may be for that your Network is to slow

i mind help you .)

Re: New One Interior

Wokka — Thu, 20 May 2004 10:27:30 GMT

IvanG wrote:
Wokka

i am too on DialUp 56k modem

but i wait 2 time one time for upload for you can See something

and 2 time for check that Link of Work for i am sure all work

i not see any problem wit 150 200k Images but that is your problems

i will be happy if you post your work for see on 640x460 A0 rendered on 3000 or 4000

thanks for attentions

Sorry for my bad english

and second thing

get off all spywhares toryans horses and viruses from your PC who EATING your transfer i mean that can help you

PS. Opening to many Browser pages get a lots of memory and may be for that your Network is to slow

i mind help you .)

G'day IvanG,
Firstly, don't apologise for your English, you should hear my second language!
I don't have any problem 150-200kb for images, I didn't get to see them and would appreciate if you sent them privatley, or better, repost them if possible, we 56k modem users do learn to be patient. I don't know how big the original files were or how many there were. If there were 2 or 3 @200kb it would take me about 2-3 mins to download, not a great problem, but I have experience forum members trying to attach 30MB animations and freezing the system.
I also certainly wouldn't send down a full print render of 3000 pixels due to copyright infringent, Ive seen examples of my work printed out by others and claimed as there work, so for me it's always small images or large images with logos all over it.
Also, thanks for the note on trojans etc. This machine is only 2 weeks old with full protection (hopefully) and I have a new email address as I was getting sick of all the spam and viruses I'd been getting on my 8 year old email address.
(ignore address below, I'll update it after sending this note)

Re: New One Interior

Djordje — Thu, 20 May 2004 14:07:36 GMT

IvanG wrote:
i not see any problem wit 150 200k Images but that is your problems

Thanks for posting the link to the Web site! I took the liberty of renaming the topic as it was not clear what the topic is about.

Don't worry about the English, the renderings speak enough.

The images gallery is at www.vuejardin.com

Re: New One Interior

Anonymous — Tue, 25 May 2004 08:01:13 GMT

Wokka wrote:
Richard,
I'd love to upgrade!

I hate being the ugly american...even in Idaho USA I am arrogant.......

forgive me...?