topic Re: HELP animations Artlantis in Visualization

HELP animations Artlantis

Thu, 11 May 2023 11:13:07 GMT

to make animations with artlantis, Why if I save to quicktime compressed file, when I push play the movie goes so fast, is there anyway to fix that?
the number of frames which are the sugested to view like movie? to make some tests, what is the best way: first place the cameras on archicad then save the file, or just work with fixed cameras on artlantis?

Re: HELP animations Artlantis

Anonymous — Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:02:21 GMT

David,

You need to do the math. First, don't output an animation file directly from Artlantis or any other program for that matter. Output individual tiff frames, sequentially numbered, to a folder of their own. - Most quality programs do this nicely.

Then load them into Quicktime Pro, all you need to do is import the first frame of the sequence. Now once you have them in QT, you can set the output options, frames per second, output size, which compressor to use, etc. - Bingo!

If you don't like the results, want to lower the FPS, increase the resolution, whatever, do it again. Double Bingo! You see, you don't need to re-render the entire project over again, just reprocess.

Save the individual frame sequences to CD - or DVD. Keep them around and next month you might come up with another use for them. I render at Digital Video format 720x486 D1 NTSC then down sample from there. This way one rendered sequence can go all the way from Video/DVD to web format. Especially looking forward to H.264 videocodec via Apple Computer QTpro. I will probably then switch to HD format 1920 x 1080 HDVS, which can go from HD to cell phones.

Just think, first half of 2005 Apple releasing computers with the ability to burn HD disc's and consumer units able to play the new standard, H.264.

See:

http://stream.apple.akadns.net/

Re: HELP animations Artlantis

Thu, 01 Jul 2004 01:57:04 GMT

Burginger, just to make sure it´s better to have QT pro than Archicad and Artlantis, to do animations?

Re: HELP animations Artlantis

Anonymous — Thu, 01 Jul 2004 02:40:35 GMT

David,

Archicad / Artlantis produce the graphic material but they are not video editors.

QuickTimePro is a basic video editor which would probably suffice assuming Spielberg isn't going to critique the presentation.

HTH - Stuart

Re: HELP animations Artlantis

Anonymous — Thu, 01 Jul 2004 06:19:05 GMT

Dave,

I see a Powerbook in your avatar, get to know all the iAPPS. QT pro might already be one of your installed applications.

Anyway back to the original question, timing. Typical video is 30 fps. Your personal animations can actually range from 12 to 18 fps and still look good, which will save you tons of render time.

To get the right speed, set up a small wireframe animation of your drive-by - fly-by or whatever. This can render in no time flat and it will give you a look at the final speed. Lets say you do a fly-by at 320x200 and it is set for 20 fps. You see the wire frame and it looks good, the distance traveled x the frames rendered give a realistic feeling to the fly-by. Then you render the sequence of images, now you load it into QT pro and output at the same rate, 20 fps. After viewing the fully rendered scene you might change your mind and now you want to slow down the camera.

One way to slow it all down would be to output a slower version from QT, say 15 fps. Now the animation camera will seem to be travelling slower.

Have fun!

Re: HELP animations Artlantis

Anonymous — Thu, 01 Jul 2004 10:46:12 GMT

if ur using OS X u can use imovie to make ur quicktime movie slower. just slide the speed towards the tortoise

Re: HELP animations Artlantis

Thu, 01 Jul 2004 14:43:09 GMT

I tought that archicad/artlantis were softwares to edit video, in develope of my projects were going to be a helpful tools. but now with these commentaries (info). I change my point of view. For me these softwares are the best, they fill my needs very well. I supouse that they have an introduction for making video. you can have video also but only for study not for professional presentations. let me try to understand these, first with archicad we make the 3d and gave all the propperties of the information that we need then with artlantis get better quality for rendering, but if we want to make diferent techniques, we need piranesi for example. But if you also need photoshop to edit the final product. Like photoshop is very important to have for edit images, QuickTime VR pro, iMovie for edit video, movie, animations.

Well I think now I get it
thanks

PS. I´m using a G5, the powerbook its an old picture.

Re: HELP animations Artlantis

Anonymous — Wed, 08 Sep 2004 11:06:55 GMT

You need to do the math. First, don't output an animation file directly from Artlantis or any other program for that matter. Output individual tiff frames, sequentially numbered, to a folder of their own. - Most quality programs do this nicely.

Then load them into Quicktime Pro, all you need to do is import the first frame of the sequence. Now once you have them in QT, you can set the output options, frames per second, output size, which compressor to use, etc. - Bingo!

If you don't like the results, want to lower the FPS, increase the resolution, whatever, do it again. Double Bingo! You see, you don't need to re-render the entire project over again, just reprocess.

Mark

This is great tip, however Im wondering if you can give a bit more info on how do do this in QT Pro. I have outputted a "series of picts" into a folder from Archicad,but am unsure just how to stitch them together into a movie in QT Pro

Re: HELP animations Artlantis

Anonymous — Wed, 08 Sep 2004 14:45:42 GMT

A series of Tiff files will work, I have never tried Picts. Start QuickTime and use the menu item shown on this attached image. Post further questions and a sample of your results here at this thread.

Mark

Re: HELP animations Artlantis

Anonymous — Wed, 08 Sep 2004 20:18:03 GMT

Burginger wrote:
A series of Tiff files will work, I have never tried Picts. Start QuickTime and use the menu item shown on this attached image. Post further questions and a sample of your results here at this thread.

Mark

Thanks Mark that works a treat, Ive have rerendered animations a few times in the past, this will greatly speed things up.

In archicad (mac edition) it only lets you ouput a series of picts , and not tiffs to a folder, no matter, it works quite well and very quick using the Open GL window in the 3D window

Re: HELP animations Artlantis

Anonymous — Fri, 17 Sep 2004 12:08:18 GMT

And, of course, if you are a pc user, you use Windows Movie Maker, free with xp, much easier to use than imovie(honest!), and has everything an architect needs to do movies of his renderings.

If you are a professional renderer, you can use expensive and hard to learn eidting software, but for me Wmm works just fine.
Besides, it's not just the program, it's how you use it

I did a small workshop about this at ArchiCAD University in Nottingham last week, and judging by the reaction of ppl that attended it, architect dont know first thing about movie editing. And the guidelines are really quite simple.

Small movie clips (10 to 15 secs), simple and slow camera movements, carefull choice of background music, intensive use of still images (dont go flying around) and some sort of story to stich it all together.