topic Re: HELP: Textures Not Aligning in Visualization

HELP: Textures Not Aligning

gpowless — Thu, 11 May 2023 11:01:21 GMT

Hi,

For some reason over the past little while I haven't been able to get some textures to align. The most notable occurs with the face of the slab not matching the siding. This usually only occurs on 2 of the four typical sides of a building.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Gregg

(added in edit): I should add that in the past I was aware that this would occur if the slab was not perfectly aligned with the wall. As well I have set the textures of all elements to 0,0,0 to no avail.....

Re: HELP: Textures Not Aligning

Djordje — Wed, 09 Feb 2005 18:22:36 GMT

gpowless wrote:
For some reason over the past little while I haven't been able to get some textures to align. The most notable occurs with the face of the slab not matching the siding. This usually only occurs on 2 of the four typical sides of a building.

I have noticed the same behaviour, especially in OpenGL mode. As the same happens in elevations and rendering, regardless of the engine, it probably means that the problem is deeper.

Also had quite a bit of problems with curved walls, where textures sometimes resized themselves horizontally.

Did not have time to test more, as a bunch of dedalines did not whooosh past ... but bared their teeth ...

Re: HELP: Textures Not Aligning

Ben Odonnell — Wed, 09 Feb 2005 18:30:28 GMT

gpowless,
Have you tried using the texture editing tools under the edit menu?
See the attached image.

HTH.
Cheers.
Ben

Re: HELP: Textures Not Aligning

Djordje — Wed, 09 Feb 2005 18:36:45 GMT

Ben wrote:
Have you tried using the texture editing tools under the edit menu?

Ben, I did. Nada.

Re: HELP: Textures Not Aligning

Ben Odonnell — Wed, 09 Feb 2005 19:10:50 GMT

Mmmm,
Seems strange. I can get it to work as it should. Am I missing something?

Cheers.
Ben

Re: HELP: Textures Not Aligning

Link — Wed, 09 Feb 2005 19:27:57 GMT

It actually depends on which direction the walls were modeled. Turn off Options>Clean Wall & Beam Intersections and check the directions of the walls. I got 20 bucks that says they were modeled in opposite directions.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: HELP: Textures Not Aligning

Karl Ottenstein — Wed, 09 Feb 2005 19:31:27 GMT

Yeah, I'm confused as well as to how these problems would arise... I've yet to encounter an alignment problem that I couldn't fix, but rarely need to do anything special.

Karl

Re: HELP: Textures Not Aligning

Ben Odonnell — Wed, 09 Feb 2005 19:51:30 GMT

Link wrote:
It actually depends on which direction the walls were modeled. Turn off Options>Clean Wall & Beam Intersections and check the directions of the walls. I got 20 bucks that says they were modeled in opposite directions.

Cheers,
Link.

Agrrr,
I tried it and still got it to work. What am I doing wrong/right?

I, like Karl, have never had a problem with texture alignment.

Cheers.
Ben

Re: HELP: Textures Not Aligning

Link — Wed, 09 Feb 2005 20:01:57 GMT

Knock yourself out mate.....!

Cheers,
Link.

Re: HELP: Textures Not Aligning

Ben Odonnell — Wed, 09 Feb 2005 20:15:19 GMT

He He,
Link,
I public promise you that I have in no way altered any geometry in the file. All I have done is a texture alignment.

Cheers.
Ben

Re: HELP: Textures Not Aligning

Link — Wed, 09 Feb 2005 20:23:09 GMT

Did you just eyeball it or what?!

Seriously, what wall(s) did you select and where did you place the origin?

Cheers,
Link.

Re: HELP: Textures Not Aligning

Ben Odonnell — Wed, 09 Feb 2005 20:40:40 GMT

Ok,
I'll let you in on my secret, no just joke'n no secret really. Yes I did eye ball it, if this is not accurate enough then I don't know what is? I then zoomed in as close as I could possibly go. I had the bottom right hand side wall selected and lined it up in the corner of all 3 walls.
See the attached image.

That's it. Have a stab it yourself, you'll find how easy it really is.

Cheers mate.
Ben

Re: HELP: Textures Not Aligning

gpowless — Wed, 09 Feb 2005 20:49:03 GMT

Hi,

I figured the wall thing out before. But the real problem is the slab will not align with the walls.

...well after trying a few things, I changed the direction of some walls and was able to get them to align with the slab. Funny thing is that there is no sense to the direction as a couple of them go opposite to the others. (I started out with using the "box" wall tool to form a rectangle when I started the project)

This is a bug, IMHO that should not appear in such a complex program. Hey Graphisoft, can you fix this ASAP?

Thanks for everyone's help

Gregg

Re: HELP: Textures Not Aligning

Anonymous — Wed, 09 Feb 2005 20:50:01 GMT

Link wrote:
I got 20 bucks that says they were modeled in opposite directions. .

Hey Ben... did you get your 20 bucks

Re: HELP: Textures Not Aligning

Link — Wed, 09 Feb 2005 20:51:43 GMT

I thought you may have been using ArchiCAD 9 Miracle version for a minute there, but it seems you're on the popular 'Eyeball' version.

That method just doesn't cut it for someone as pure as myself mate.

It's just that if the 3D Hatch changes by definition or orientation, then everything is out of whack, and we're no better off.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: HELP: Textures Not Aligning

Link — Wed, 09 Feb 2005 20:57:35 GMT

He's not qualifying for the 20 bucks, but I'll buy him a few beers in Budapest!

This whole orientation deal has kinda bugged me for years, and I have certainly made Graphisoft aware of the issue. I especially don't like the fact that the outcome of magic wanded walls on a slab, depends on which direction the slab was modeled. This should be of no consequence to the end user IMO.

Don't start me on magic wanding in the 3D window!

Cheers,
Link.

Re: HELP: Textures Not Aligning

Ben Odonnell — Wed, 09 Feb 2005 21:01:19 GMT

woodster wrote:
Link wrote:
I got 20 bucks that says they were modeled in opposite directions. .
Hey Ben... did you get your 20 bucks

Woody,
No I haven't yet, but I'll hit him up for a beer in Budapest in May instead BTW, are you going to be there?
Cheers.
Ben

Re: HELP: Textures Not Aligning

Ben Odonnell — Wed, 09 Feb 2005 21:05:03 GMT

Link wrote:
He's not qualifying for the 20 bucks, but I'll buy him a few beers in Budapest!

This whole orientation deal has kinda bugged me for years, and I have certainly made Graphisoft aware of the issue. I especially don't like the fact that the outcome of magic wanded walls on a slab, depends on which direction the slab was modeled. This should be of no consequence to the end user IMO.

Don't start me on magic wanding in the 3D window!

Cheers,
Link.

Yes mate,
You are totally right. For visualization purposes this method is fine, but as you pointed out if hatching defs change, it's back to square one.

May be this is one for the wish list? Improvements in texture alignment.

Yea magic wand in 3D, lets no go there

Cheers.
Ben

Re: HELP: Textures Not Aligning

Anonymous — Wed, 09 Feb 2005 21:35:11 GMT

Ben wrote:
woodster wrote:
Link wrote:
I got 20 bucks that says they were modeled in opposite directions. .
Hey Ben... did you get your 20 bucks
Woody,
No I haven't yet, but I'll hit him up for a beer in Budapest in May instead BTW, are you going to be there?

I don't know... I still think you should get the 20 bucks... the walls weren't modeled in different directions I think he'll have to buy me a beer when we're in Budapest too on that one

Woody

Re: HELP: Textures Not Aligning

Link — Wed, 09 Feb 2005 21:49:49 GMT

Yes they were! And that was the official resolution from Graphisoft given the exact same file!

I'd be happy to buy you a beer too Mr Schempp, although maybe this would be better settled with a unicum?:D

Cheers,
Link.