topic Re: Line to differentiate two different cut fills (done by graphic override) of the same wall type in Visualization

Line to differentiate two different cut fills (done by graphic override) of the same wall type

JamesBell — Thu, 02 Nov 2023 03:04:34 GMT

Hi,

I have a wall that is next to a wall with a different cut fill (it is an extension of an existing wall, into a new wall).
Is there a way for a line to show in between the old and the new?

Re: Line to differentiate two different cut fills (done by graphic override) of the same wall type

Lingwisyer — Thu, 02 Nov 2023 03:32:38 GMT

As far as I know, the only way would be to put them on different Layers with different Intersection Groups.

Ling.

Re: Line to differentiate two different cut fills (done by graphic override) of the same wall type

Barry Kelly — Thu, 02 Nov 2023 03:35:59 GMT

The walls join based on their 'structure' settings (building material/composite), same structure = no lines.

Even though you are overriding the fill with the graphic overrides/renovation filters, they are still technically the same structure.

Therefore there will be no joining line.

Barry.

Re: Line to differentiate two different cut fills (done by graphic override) of the same wall type

Mahmoud Qenawi — Thu, 02 Nov 2023 06:27:03 GMT

Hi all,

i fetched for a solution and found that reflecting reference line location can give you the desired result,

i don't know if it's applicable but it may be accepted in any way, pls see attached screenshots.

Re: Line to differentiate two different cut fills (done by graphic override) of the same wall type

Barry Kelly — Thu, 02 Nov 2023 06:34:13 GMT

If reference lines do not touch, walls will not trim to each other and therefore will show the end lines (if they are turned on).

However this may affect how the walls trim with other walls.

You also can't simply drag doors and windows from one wall across into the other (will stay associated with the original wall it is placed in rather than re-linking to the other wall).

But if these are not problems you encounter, then moving the reference line is a good solution.

Barry.

Re: Line to differentiate two different cut fills (done by graphic override) of the same wall type

Lingwisyer — Thu, 02 Nov 2023 06:48:17 GMT

Though if you are only wanting that dividing line when you are highlighting the existing vs. new this won't work.

Re: Line to differentiate two different cut fills (done by graphic override) of the same wall type

Lee Hankins — Thu, 02 Nov 2023 07:13:13 GMT

If the walls are identified truly as new and existing using the renovation filters you can select the option within the renovation filter settings that new and existing elements do not intersect. You will then get a hard line between the new and existing wall.

Re: Line to differentiate two different cut fills (done by graphic override) of the same wall type

Barry Kelly — Thu, 02 Nov 2023 07:19:39 GMT

@Lee Hankins wrote:

If the walls are identified truly as new and existing using the renovation filters you can select the option within the renovation filter settings that new and existing elements do not intersect. You will then get a hard line between the new and existing wall.

That will do it.

I don't use the renovation filters enough to have thought of that setting.

@JamesBell please mark Lee's post as the solution if you agree.

Then I will nominate the post for 'tip of the month'.

Barry.

Re: Line to differentiate two different cut fills (done by graphic override) of the same wall type

JamesBell — Thu, 02 Nov 2023 07:21:07 GMT

That is exactly what I was after, thank you!

Re: Line to differentiate two different cut fills (done by graphic override) of the same wall type

Mahmoud Qenawi — Thu, 02 Nov 2023 08:11:30 GMT

I can't produce this result as @Lee Hankins described so if anyone can approve that it's working?

These are my settings:

Re: Line to differentiate two different cut fills (done by graphic override) of the same wall type

Barry Kelly — Thu, 02 Nov 2023 08:15:32 GMT

You have to choose the 'Do not intersect' option in the renovation filter settings.

Barry.

Re: Line to differentiate two different cut fills (done by graphic override) of the same wall type

Mahmoud Qenawi — Thu, 02 Nov 2023 08:29:51 GMT

Thanks @Barry Kelly for clarification & thanks @Lee Hankins.

Re: Line to differentiate two different cut fills (done by graphic override) of the same wall type

Erwin Edel — Thu, 02 Nov 2023 12:03:58 GMT

We generally have several version of the 'same' building material. With a high priority if it has a structural function, lower if it has a non-structural function and in the case of renovation projects we will add 'existing' versions of the building materials for the 'existing' part of the model. This solves this issue, as the new wall will have a different building material (even if the real-world material would be the same).