topic Re: Cut surfaces in 3D - Building Materials in Visualization

Cut surfaces in 3D - Building Materials

Anonymous — Fri, 26 May 2023 12:59:08 GMT

Can someone tell me why this wall shows the surface for the building materials at the top of wall, but not at the end? Am I missing a setting somewhere?

Re: Cut surfaces in 3D - Building Materials

Karl Ottenstein — Mon, 08 Jul 2013 15:15:57 GMT

Is it a CP wall with the edge surface overridden in the wall settings?

Re: Cut surfaces in 3D - Building Materials

Anonymous — Mon, 08 Jul 2013 15:32:42 GMT

It is a complex profile, but all the components have the "use building material" box selected.

Also, i just created a new wall (just a composite wall) and used the same building materials. The sides and top are not showing correctly. How do I change them to use the building materials? Must be something simple I am missing...

Re: Cut surfaces in 3D - Building Materials

Anonymous — Mon, 08 Jul 2013 15:36:06 GMT

This is my wall settings box.

Re: Cut surfaces in 3D - Building Materials

James B — Mon, 08 Jul 2013 15:48:33 GMT

The override surface settings work a little different between a Composite and Profile. For a Composite Wall you have 3 surface overrides (outside/inside/all edges), for a Profile you have only 2 (extrusion override, ends). You need to depress the end/edge button in the Model panel under "Override Surfaces:" then the skins will appear.

Re: Cut surfaces in 3D - Building Materials

Anonymous — Mon, 08 Jul 2013 16:01:50 GMT

Ah, it was something simple. I never knew you could depress these buttons...

Re: Cut surfaces in 3D - Building Materials

Erich — Mon, 08 Jul 2013 19:39:23 GMT

Although your issue seems to be solved, I have noticed that when you trim a wall to a roof, it no longer shows the building materials properly and ends up looking much like your images.

Re: Cut surfaces in 3D - Building Materials

Laszlo Nagy — Tue, 09 Jul 2013 10:19:37 GMT

Erich,
Can you show an image of this situation?

Re: Cut surfaces in 3D - Building Materials

Laszlo Nagy — Tue, 09 Jul 2013 10:32:56 GMT

Steven,

A few New Feature Clips showing how this works:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd4xGZ7zzvY&list=PLnXY6vLUwlWWTKWYR6GDMPaua0jD1JtMr&index=10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQUR-ZsdHmc&list=PLnXY6vLUwlWWTKWYR6GDMPaua0jD1JtMr&index=11

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9PLDkbOGx8&list=PLnXY6vLUwlWWTKWYR6GDMPaua0jD1JtMr&index=12

Re: Cut surfaces in 3D - Building Materials

Anonymous — Tue, 09 Jul 2013 13:29:18 GMT

Thank you Laszlo.

Re: Cut surfaces in 3D - Building Materials

rjwilden — Tue, 09 Jul 2013 18:19:36 GMT

I have noticed that with a composite wall I am not able to activate the
over-ride button, when I click it nothing happens. I have a
Watched the video and i cant see what Im doing wrong.

"James B" wrote:
The override surface settings work a little different between a Composite and Profile. For a Composite Wall you have 3 surface overrides (outside/inside/all edges), for a Profile you have only 2 (extrusion override, ends). You need to depress the end/edge button in the Model panel under "Override Surfaces:" then the skins will appear.[/quot

Re: Cut surfaces in 3D - Building Materials

James B — Tue, 09 Jul 2013 18:23:01 GMT

rjwilden wrote:
I have noticed that with a composite wall I am not able to activate the
over-ride button, when I click it nothing happens. I have a
Watched the video and i cant see what Im doing wrong.

The override buttons only appear when "Legacy intersection methods" switch if off - under Project Preferences > Construction Elements. The legacy mode is needed for migrating files.

You can tell if it's on, if the Model panel says "Surfaces:" (legacy switch on) or "Override Surfaces:" (legacy switch off).

Re: Cut surfaces in 3D - Building Materials

Erich — Tue, 09 Jul 2013 19:50:03 GMT

laszlonagy wrote:
Erich,
Can you show an image of this situation?

Here is what I am seeing. This is a wall that is trimmed to the roof above (roof layer is turned to wireframe for this view). The wall has an override for the exterior skin but turning that off does not have an effect.

Re: Cut surfaces in 3D - Building Materials

James B — Tue, 09 Jul 2013 20:08:34 GMT

Erich wrote:
Here is what I am seeing. This is a wall that is trimmed to the roof above (roof layer is turned to wireframe for this view). The wall has an override for the exterior skin but turning that off does not have an effect.

Erich,

If you use connect options from the context menu (trim or merge) then the skins will intersect - between the Composite Wall and Roof, and the surface show correctly. Are you using this Trim or the old Crop function or SEO?

Re: Cut surfaces in 3D - Building Materials

Laszlo Nagy — Tue, 09 Jul 2013 20:25:01 GMT

Erich,
Is it possible that you have the Custom radio button selected in the Filter and Cut Elements in 3D Dialog and a white surface is selected for Custom surface?

Re: Cut surfaces in 3D - Building Materials

rjwilden — Tue, 09 Jul 2013 20:47:28 GMT

Thanks James that was it.
Although I still see nothing in the model panel, that says legacy is on or off

James wrote:
rjwilden wrote:
I have noticed that with a composite wall I am not able to activate the
over-ride button, when I click it nothing happens. I have a
Watched the video and i cant see what Im doing wrong.
The override buttons only appear when "Legacy intersection methods" switch if off - under Project Preferences > Construction Elements. The legacy mode is needed for migrating files.

You can tell if it's on, if the Model panel says "Surfaces:" (legacy switch on) or "Override Surfaces:" (legacy switch off).

Re: Cut surfaces in 3D - Building Materials

Erich — Wed, 10 Jul 2013 04:41:43 GMT

James,

I am using the "Crop to Single-Plane Roof" command. The Trim Elements to Roof/Shell command from the context menu does not work with Single Plane roofs (at least for me).

Laszlo, yes the custom button was selected, but has nothing to do with this cut (I tried with it on and with it off - and the surface was set to black not white)

This smells like an unfinished feature with the antique commands I tend to use.

Re: Cut surfaces in 3D - Building Materials

Brad Elliott — Tue, 16 Jul 2013 19:49:01 GMT

But I have no surface override buttons? I am locked in to various.

Re: Cut surfaces in 3D - Building Materials

Brad Elliott — Tue, 16 Jul 2013 19:50:10 GMT

Plus all my Building Materials have a warning symbol. But I have no information as to what the alert is.

Re: Cut surfaces in 3D - Building Materials

Barry Kelly — Wed, 17 Jul 2013 03:08:41 GMT

It isn't very clear but that warning symbol means your legacy mode is on and that is why you don't have any material over-rides.
Barry.