topic Re: Shadows on a 2d plan? in Visualization

Shadows on a 2d plan?

Anonymous — Thu, 11 May 2023 10:14:01 GMT

Is it possible to make shadows on a 2D plan.

Like illustrated on the attached file.

Not in 3D render but in 2D

Re: Shadows on a 2d plan?

Eduardo Rolon — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:10:52 GMT

Already asked and answered multiple times. Please read in the help file about:

Cutting Planes
3D Documents
3D Projection Settings

Re: Shadows on a 2d plan?

Anonymous — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:23:34 GMT

Yes I know about the 3d cutting planes etc.

But my question was, is it possible in the 2D plane.?

Re: Shadows on a 2d plan?

Eduardo Rolon — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:31:43 GMT

Yes

Re: Shadows on a 2d plan?

Anonymous — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:48:18 GMT

How do you do it??

Re: Shadows on a 2d plan?

Eduardo Rolon — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:58:17 GMT

Please read the Help file:

1. By using the Cutting planes to specify the height of the cut.
2. Use 3D Projection Settings to view the file in top view and save it to a 3D Document.
3. In the 3D Document turn shadows on.

Re: Shadows on a 2d plan?

Anonymous — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:09:52 GMT

I don't want to show the 3d version of the plan, but the 2d plan.

Is that possible with that function.?

Re: Shadows on a 2d plan?

Eduardo Rolon — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:15:34 GMT

2D Objects cannot cast shadows since the shadows are calculated by the 3D window. If you want shadows in the floor plan you need to use a 3D document the regular 2D story can not cast shadows.

What do you need to do that can be done in the regular story and cannot be done using a 3D Document?

Re: Shadows on a 2d plan?

Anonymous — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:25:59 GMT

I have made a drawing in 2d, like the attached file. It is identical but without the shadows. So the shadows is the only thing i need.

I wan't to have the plan in a specific scale, that is why it is easier in 2d. So I don't haft to take to photoshop afterwards for correcting.

Is it possible to make transparent fills, to make fake shadows.?

Re: Shadows on a 2d plan?

Eduardo Rolon — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:37:11 GMT

If you read about 3D documents you would know that these have a specific scale just like regular floor plans and as easy. They are vectors (therefore they will always be sharp) so you don't have to open them in Photoshop to edit or to rescale. Since they are tied to the Model they will update as you make changes and you can control the cover fills, layers and MVO.

If you want to do it the hard way and fake the shadows you can use transparent fills just select the background pen to be transparent.

Re: Shadows on a 2d plan?

Anonymous — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:57:03 GMT

Ok. I will try to study the 3d documents, to find more information about the subject.

Thanks for your help.

Re: Shadows on a 2d plan?

Anonymous — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:06:48 GMT

If you want to look directly from the top in the 3d document. Like your file. Which settings do you use then.?

Re: Shadows on a 2d plan?

Eduardo Rolon — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:19:13 GMT

Menu -> View -> 3D View Mode -> 3D Projections Settings

Select Parallel Projection and then Top view, move the camera to define which side is up and move the sun to select the direction of the shadows.

Re: Shadows on a 2d plan?

Anonymous — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:52:46 GMT

Thanks for the help.

It was very easy to use the 3d document. I think this would be easier than faking with fills.

Re: Shadows on a 2d plan?

Anonymous — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:23:54 GMT

Is it possible to turn off shadows from wall's??

Re: Shadows on a 2d plan?

Eduardo Rolon — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:34:57 GMT

Yes.

Now you need to read up on;

View Sets
Layer Sets

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Conceptually you would create to views of the 3D Document. In the one with shadows the layer for the walls will be off. In the one without shadows you will only have the walls. Both of theses views will be placed on a layout on on top of the other.

Re: Shadows on a 2d plan?

Barry Kelly — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 04:44:33 GMT

You can also generate a 3D top view with just the elements on that you want to cast shadows.
Then place a 2D marquee around it and copy just the shadows.
these can then be pasted into the floor plan in what ever layer you want so you can turn them on or off.
Just remember that these shadows will not change as you alter your design unlike a 3D document which is live.

Barry.

Re: Shadows on a 2d plan?

Anonymous — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 14:17:45 GMT

Thanks, I will try it out.

Re: Shadows on a 2d plan?

ngoldie — Fri, 24 Mar 2017 02:13:27 GMT

Hi,

I was wondering where the 3D copy option was, I can't seem to find it anywhere?

Thanks,
Naomi

Re: Shadows on a 2d plan?

Barry Kelly — Fri, 24 Mar 2017 02:36:34 GMT

You need to be in the 3D window and have it set to the 'Vectorial Engine'.
Doesn't work in OpenGL.

Then place a 2D marquee.
Then CTRL+C and the dialogue will appear.

Barry.