topic Re: Saved Sketch Render View Altered from AC19 to AC20 in Visualization

Saved Sketch Render View Altered from AC19 to AC20

Stress Co_ — Thu, 11 May 2023 09:58:07 GMT

I've migrated a project from AC19 to AC20.

I haven't changed ANY settings yet, my saved Sketch Rendered
views are different (see attached).

Have "Line Styles" changed (Tech Pencil is used in both examples)?

I can't replicate the AC19 output in AC20

Re: Saved Sketch Render View Altered from AC19 to AC20

Erwin Edel — Mon, 10 Oct 2016 12:29:18 GMT

It does seem like the tech pencil turned from 6H to 2B, doesn't it?

I noticed something similar the other day.

Re: Saved Sketch Render View Altered from AC19 to AC20

DGSketcher — Mon, 10 Oct 2016 16:07:32 GMT

Got the same thing here. Fortunately the sketches it has affected didn't need reissued otherwise I might have had to waste time spotting the change in settings IF that is the cause.

Re: Saved Sketch Render View Altered from AC19 to AC20

Stress Co_ — Mon, 10 Oct 2016 16:48:16 GMT

Assuming "Line Style" was the issue....
I copied (and renamed) the Tech Pencil "SketchTextures" folder from AC19's "Visualization Folder" to AC20's.

No joy. Same result.

(It didn't appear that the .tif images were any different between the two versions.)

Re: Saved Sketch Render View Altered from AC19 to AC20

Richard Morrison — Mon, 10 Oct 2016 17:24:12 GMT

Is it possible that the Drawing Selection setting (i.e. in Layout) for "Colors" got accidentally switched from Color to Grayscale?

Re: Saved Sketch Render View Altered from AC19 to AC20

Stress Co_ — Mon, 10 Oct 2016 17:35:52 GMT

Richard wrote:
Is it possible that the Drawing Selection setting (i.e. in Layout) for "Colors" got accidentally switched from Color to Grayscale?

No. Setting is the same.
BTW, those screen shots are of the source view,
not the layouts.

I'm getting better output by dialing the paper roughness to Zero.

Re: Saved Sketch Render View Altered from AC19 to AC20

Erwin Edel — Tue, 11 Oct 2016 07:22:48 GMT

What used to be a more or less solid black line, turned into a grainy line.

I allways like the tech pencil for being a sharp, crisp line, almost like 3D document would get you, but with the option of giving it a bit of the overstretch to make it, well, sketchy.

Great for overlaying on your colour renders subtly to give edges more definition and make the whole thing look a bit more like illustration. This effect is pretty much ruined by the whole grainy linework you get out of ArchiCAD20 at the moment.

I've reported it as a bug to the dutch reseller.

Unrelated, I also notice that the 3D views don't match up between 19 and 20. The horizon seems to have dropped a bit, for lack of better explanation. Excact same camera settings make the bottom end of my model disappear in 20. I've reported this too.

Re: Saved Sketch Render View Altered from AC19 to AC20

Erwin Edel — Tue, 11 Oct 2016 07:23:32 GMT

Oh and before I forget, the other line styles have the same grainy look to them

Re: Saved Sketch Render View Altered from AC19 to AC20

NCornia — Tue, 11 Oct 2016 15:44:52 GMT

Hi All,

This is a recently reported issue. A coding change had a negative effect on the Paper Roughness setting. As Marc noticed above, set the Paper Roughness to 0% in the PhotoRendering Settings palette and the quality should be as you might expect it.

Sorry for the inconvenience. This is planned to be fixed in a future Update for ARCHICAD 20.

Best regards,

Re: Saved Sketch Render View Altered from AC19 to AC20

Katalin Borszeki — Wed, 23 Nov 2016 12:59:37 GMT

Hi All, this problem has been fixed in ARCHICAD 20! It is currently not planned to be fixed for ARCHICAD 19.
Best, k

Re: Saved Sketch Render View Altered from AC19 to AC20

Anonymous — Fri, 20 Jan 2017 17:25:28 GMT

Thank you for posting. I have been having the same problem. In 19 the renders look fine, but not 20. Thanks for the solution.