topic Re: Let's see what Cinerender can do in Visualization

Let's see what Cinerender can do

Anonymous — Thu, 11 May 2023 09:45:39 GMT

Goodmorning forum,
this topic does not involve a question, so I hope I am not breaking any rules here.
It's been awhile since AC18 came out and to be honest I was expecting to see much more projects rendered in cinerender, since it was huge upgrade from AC17.
So....this is a "show us your renders" thread
Cheers!

Re: Let's see what Cinerender can do

Anonymous — Tue, 19 Aug 2014 03:14:13 GMT

Someone has to be first. I have modeled in AC17 and rendered in AC18. Some post in PS. I am happy with the result.

Re: Let's see what Cinerender can do

Anonymous — Mon, 25 Aug 2014 09:21:55 GMT

Great render,considering that it came direct from AC (plus a bit of tinkering in ps) ! Have you used other renderers in the past, if yes then what's your oppinion on AC's implementation of Cinerender engine?

Re: Let's see what Cinerender can do

Anonymous — Tue, 26 Aug 2014 09:36:42 GMT

I think that it is quite powerfull, but again I see a big fail on the Graphisoft side that no guide was provided, and the implementation is poor. Few tutorials would help a lot to set up workflows. I find the AC almost good for interiors (very bad handling of non gdl objects such as 3ds models of furniture etc - one hi-poly lamp can freeze the AC 3D engine with ease), but for exteriors it is just substandard. No camera tools (even 2 point perspective is not possible - the real one like the shift in photography), no 3D foliage, slow grass etc. Somehow almost every new tool in AC nowdays is halfbaked when introduced so probably in the future it will get better. I can show few other renders with a little different settings, I am happy with them, but I would love to use more external non gdl models.

Re: Let's see what Cinerender can do

Anonymous — Tue, 26 Aug 2014 10:55:10 GMT

You are right about non-gdl objects with high poly count.
The sofas in your render would make a huge difference if they had enough detail in them.
Either way, great renders,keep 'em coming!

Re: Let's see what Cinerender can do

Laszlo Nagy — Wed, 27 Aug 2014 16:49:40 GMT

You guys might be interested in this ArchiCAD Add-On for
http://www.day8design.hu/modelport/

It is mentioned in a few threads recently:
http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?p=231752&highlight=#231752
http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?p=231753&highlight=#231753

Re: Let's see what Cinerender can do

Anonymous — Thu, 28 Aug 2014 06:12:53 GMT

thnx Laszlo!
this seems interesting and I would like to try a demo version,but I can't seem to find one available.
But the problem might not be in the import of the mesh but in the polycount of the model and how will AC manage this. To be honest I haven't tried importing high poly count 3d models as I do my visualization in 3DStudio.
But with the coming of the Cinerender I was hopping I could stick to just one program for most of the time (and maybe Artlantis that I really do not like using)

Re: Let's see what Cinerender can do

Anonymous — Thu, 28 Aug 2014 09:45:42 GMT

thing is most of the time you need to explode the objects after import to morphs to add materials and when you do it it kills AC. One workaround is to have another AC open just for importing exploding and applying materials than making AC objects. Works but it is slow. I have not tried that with trees but that is more complicated I guess. Again it would be very welcome if Graphisoft could show us few tutorials with the workflow.

Re: Let's see what Cinerender can do

Eduardo Rolon — Thu, 28 Aug 2014 13:11:15 GMT

stayrudee,

FYI you are aware that don't need to explode a Morph to change the surface materials.

Re: Let's see what Cinerender can do

Anonymous — Fri, 29 Aug 2014 07:06:11 GMT

I think he meant convert a gdl object into morph to be able to select faces etc.
Oh by the way,does AC18 have an option to allow you to select vertices/faces/edges? besides the control (cmd) +shift

Re: Let's see what Cinerender can do

Erwin Edel — Fri, 29 Aug 2014 07:25:20 GMT

You can use Find & Select to select morph faces with a certain surface material. That could be what you are looking for to quickly change surface materials on objects / morphs of imported 3DS files.

Re: Let's see what Cinerender can do

Eduardo Rolon — Fri, 29 Aug 2014 11:07:27 GMT

Ok, my mistake.

You can change the "Pick Tool / Arrow" to sub-selection mode and then you don't need to use the command+shift shortcut. If I remember correctly his has been available since Morphs were introduce.

Just remember to change it back to the regular pick tool to keep working.

Re: Let's see what Cinerender can do

Anonymous — Fri, 29 Aug 2014 17:52:48 GMT

stayrudee wrote:
Someone has to be first. I have modeled in AC17 and rendered in AC18. Some post in PS. I am happy with the result.

Very nice render, thanks for posting. Is that a wooden floor texture that comes with A18 or is it a custom texture you imported? Can you tell me how you made it?

thanks

Re: Let's see what Cinerender can do

Anonymous — Mon, 01 Sep 2014 06:33:03 GMT

Eduardo, thank you for the tip, it does make things abit easier,but a small pet pallet with 3 choises (vertex/edge/face) would have been exactly what we need.
And indeed ,his wooden floors are spot on!Great shader!

Re: Let's see what Cinerender can do

Anonymous — Wed, 18 Nov 2015 01:39:35 GMT

For some reason after I converted my ArchiCAD 17 project file into 18 my render is all messed up, the glass and reflections are completely wrong.

A notable example is the shower cabin, instead of being transparent it reflects the sky and mesh outside. I posted question about this before but no one supplied an answer. I'm using the glass and mirror surfaces out of the catalog.

Perhaps if I hand the .pln file things can get cleared up. Otherwise I have recreate a new project file in order to get the renders right. Might as well go back to Artlantis -_-