topic Re: ARCHICAD-CINEMA 4D connection in Visualization

ARCHICAD-CINEMA 4D connection

_Salmon — Thu, 11 May 2023 11:25:59 GMT

Hi,
i'm using bidirectional connection with ARCHICAD-Cinema 4D Add-on to edit an object from AC inside C4D.
But the hole process is full of failures so it makes no sense to use it.

is Somebody working with it?

cheers,
al

http://s14.postimg.org/gmuyuac29/Failures_using_connection_AC_C4_D_add_on.jpg

Re: ARCHICAD-CINEMA 4D connection

_Salmon — Thu, 26 Nov 2015 12:05:22 GMT

Sorry for the confusion.
I didn't see limitations:
http://www.graphisoft.com/downloads/addons/cinema_4d/cinema4d_download.html

Re: ARCHICAD-CINEMA 4D connection

eldhead — Fri, 29 Jan 2016 19:01:52 GMT

This is better:
http://din3d.net/products/din3d-exporter-archicad

Re: ARCHICAD-CINEMA 4D connection

Eduardo Rolon — Fri, 29 Jan 2016 20:45:10 GMT

eldhead wrote:
This is better:
http://din3d.net/products/din3d-exporter-archicad

+1 Recommending Din3D have been using it for years.

Re: ARCHICAD-CINEMA 4D connection

Anonymous — Sat, 12 Mar 2016 18:14:26 GMT

ejrolon wrote:
eldhead wrote:
This is better:
http://din3d.net/products/din3d-exporter-archicad
+1 Recommending Din3D have been using it for years.

Unfortunately, development was abandoned because of family problems

There is a easy and valid way to communicate with Graphisoft about the add-on limitations?

Re: ARCHICAD-CINEMA 4D connection

TMA_80 — Sat, 12 Mar 2016 18:59:10 GMT

ciciolo wrote:
ejrolon wrote:
eldhead wrote:
This is better:
http://din3d.net/products/din3d-exporter-archicad
+1 Recommending Din3D have been using it for years.
Unfortunately, development was abandoned because of family problems

There is a easy and valid way to communicate with Graphisoft about the add-on limitations?

Or to ask them to acquire the whole din3d add- ons series

Re: ARCHICAD-CINEMA 4D connection

Eduardo Rolon — Sat, 12 Mar 2016 19:02:26 GMT

Or yo can get in touch with
http://www.eptar.hu/cadsupport.php?id=product_block&pID=14&Lang=ENG
Since they were selling the ADD-On to see what will they do about it.

Re: ARCHICAD-CINEMA 4D connection

Anonymous — Wed, 25 May 2016 13:51:27 GMT

ejrolon wrote:
eldhead wrote:
This is better:
http://din3d.net/products/din3d-exporter-archicad
+1 Recommending Din3D have been using it for years.

Din3D works only as an exporter as far as I know. The Cinema 4D exchange plugin is a 'live link'. It can be used to modify an archicad element or create a new object by using Cinema 4D modelling techniques which doesn't exist in ArchiCAD then bring it back to ArchiCAD. The object keeps its position and scale.
The plugin's limitation is mainly with materials but if the material is applied after importing the object back to ArchiCAD, then shouldn't be a problem.

Re: ARCHICAD-CINEMA 4D connection

Anonymous — Wed, 24 Aug 2016 15:00:31 GMT

So now that the Din3D in basically dead and can`t use it for AC20, can someone show me a good way to export geometry form AC20 to C4D, but also a way to update it after i set up the whole scene with lights, materials, vegetation, cameras,objects.

I tried the Save as C4D method but that one doesn't optimize the geometry at all, but this i`m referring to the fact that it exports a lot, and i mean A LOT of objects, which kills the view port performance in c4d. And this method still doesn`t have an update option.

I tried to save my ac20 file to ac19 to export it from there via Din3D, guess what, it doesn`t F**** work, it freezes c4d each time (with geometry made in ac 19 it works perfectly).I think the conversion from ac20 to 19 is generating a new time of geometry that din3d can`t export.

I can`t believe that this nemetschek companies can`t work together to have a pipepline between them, or at least the part that is more important,like exporting geometry and optimize it. They should talk with the guy from Din3D and take that project and implement it in their add-ons, or at least LEARN FROM IT.

Even for Lumion there is an update scene option. WAKE UP

Re: ARCHICAD-CINEMA 4D connection

Eduardo Rolon — Wed, 24 Aug 2016 15:35:32 GMT

Din3D published an update for AC20 of the plugin for free so your can still use it. He sent emails to all buyers about a month ago.

Re: ARCHICAD-CINEMA 4D connection

Anonymous — Wed, 24 Aug 2016 15:40:57 GMT

@rodut1112

Do you refer to the 'ArchiCAD Scene Combine' command within Cinema 4D when you say 'optimization of the geometry'?

The following workaround works for me when I want to update the cinema scene and optimize the geometry later on:
- I use the Cinema 4D Exchange plugin to 'Save as' the ArchiCAD model. (I leave the default settings to group the geometry by Class)
- if I want to update the Cinema 4D scene I choose File menu - Merge option in Cinema which brings up the 'Update Merge' dialog. There I can select if I want to update the geometry only or material and lights as well.
- then the optimization can be done to simplify the geometry using the ArchiCAD Scene combine command
but to make it work, the hierarchy should be similair to this structure:

[/img]http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/files/hierarchy_for_combine_175.jpg[img]

If, for example, the wall object polygons are groupped under a Null object, called SW-001, I just move the polygons of the wall up by one in the hierarchy, then I select the 'Walls' Null and issue the command ArchiCAD Combine. It will optimize the geometry.

Re: ARCHICAD-CINEMA 4D connection

_Salmon — Wed, 24 Aug 2016 15:41:57 GMT

Rodu, i'm totally agree with you. Graphisoft is focused in artlantis. It seems Cinema 4d workflow is not yet interesting.

Re: ARCHICAD-CINEMA 4D connection

Anonymous — Wed, 23 Nov 2016 17:14:29 GMT

This is Seriously not acceptable!!!
AC20 is nice and all...but what about updating between AC and C4D!!!!(':evil:')

There's always been a good workflow between AC and C4D. Even without the Din3D plugin. Just by simply using the C4D exchange plugin you could update models in C4d after adding Materials, Objects, Lighting and what not.

The current C4D plugin doesn't even export properly. Its scaling is completely off and won't update!! And now I READ this ':shock:'.

Really Graphisoft...why not just simply update the C4D exchange plugin properly for AC20??? (don't tell me that AC is coded deferent wich makes this hard

The PhotoRendering Setting pallet export is good...but again...where are the update functions!!!??? Not really a useful workflow if you can't update the geometry like in Lumion or Artlantis.

Question for Graphisoft: Are you looking in to this or even considering a proper workflow option between AC and C4D? :?::?::!::!::!::!::!:

Re: ARCHICAD-CINEMA 4D connection

abdelaziz — Wed, 23 Nov 2016 20:33:14 GMT

I see cinema 4d more for its module MOGRAPH than for CINERENDER
And I wish graphisoft to use cinema 4d as rhino connection
MOGRAPH is much simpler than Grasshopper
.........................less node...........................

Re: ARCHICAD-CINEMA 4D connection

Anonymous — Fri, 25 Nov 2016 09:33:56 GMT

JustinX wrote:
This is Seriously not acceptable!!!
AC20 is nice and all...but what about updating between AC and C4D!!!!(':evil:')

There's always been a good workflow between AC and C4D. Even without the Din3D plugin. Just by simply using the C4D exchange plugin you could update models in C4d after adding Materials, Objects, Lighting and what not.

The current C4D plugin doesn't even export properly. Its scaling is completely off and won't update!! And now I READ this ':shock:'.

Really Graphisoft...why not just simply update the C4D exchange plugin properly for AC20??? (don't tell me that AC is coded deferent wich makes this hard

The PhotoRendering Setting pallet export is good...but again...where are the update functions!!!??? Not really a useful workflow if you can't update the geometry like in Lumion or Artlantis.

Question for Graphisoft: Are you looking in to this or even considering a proper workflow option between AC and C4D? :?::?::!::!::!::!::!:

I remember maxonform...Was developed by maxon, not graphisoft and workflow was same as DIN3D. Don't understand why was ended development and distribuition, expecially since maxon and graphisoft were joined under nemetscheck.

My guess, that problem is in C4d: should be there a code string that should handle the update process.
Again, is really odd...

Re: ARCHICAD-CINEMA 4D connection

abdelaziz — Fri, 25 Nov 2016 14:45:57 GMT

A connection like grasshopper on cinema 4d may look like this

Re: ARCHICAD-CINEMA 4D connection

Anonymous — Fri, 25 Nov 2016 19:18:47 GMT

hallo ciciolo.

Could you direct me to that forum?
Maybe the guys at Maxon don't know that their plugin isn't working with AC 20.
Because on Graohisofts site you can clearly download the C4D exchange plugin plugin for AC"20". Only...it does not work!!!!!

and to be clear this is a AC 20 problem. because I have tried various things.
And the export/update problem is only when exporting from AC "20". AC 19 does the job.

to "abdelaziz".
I don't want to be rude but. this thread is realy focused on exporting and updating models from AC to C4D.

if you want u can make a thread for rhino and C4D. possible that u can find help or suggestions there.

Re: ARCHICAD-CINEMA 4D connection

Anonymous — Sat, 26 Nov 2016 10:48:23 GMT

JustinX wrote:
hallo ciciolo.

Could you direct me to that forum?
Maybe the guys at Maxon don't know that their plugin isn't working with AC 20.
Because on Graohisofts site you can clearly download the C4D exchange plugin plugin for AC"20". Only...it does not work!!!!!

and to be clear this is a AC 20 problem. because I have tried various things.
And the export/update problem is only when exporting from AC "20". AC 19 does the job.

Hi Justinx, I was talking about an old application named "Maxonform", that allowed fully exchanges between ArchiCAD and Cinema 4D.

About AC20, I have to try: until last month all my projects was in AC17. I'll keep you informed about, have a nice weekend

Re: ARCHICAD-CINEMA 4D connection

Anonymous — Fri, 20 Jan 2017 14:46:49 GMT

hey people!!

This is what I meant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hs6WO7jvako&list=PLCZXcmFQ6s03BwI2Xn3lm6ZYocDLRtNRL

If there's a another work-around let us know.

Greets!