topic Re: Twinmotion refraction IOR? in Visualization

Twinmotion refraction IOR?

JohnJay — Thu, 11 May 2023 09:47:07 GMT

Does TM support IOR?

e.g. pool water?

Re: Twinmotion refraction IOR?

Emre Senoglu — Mon, 10 May 2021 07:00:09 GMT

Nope, TM is not that advanced yet. Refraction is still a difficult aspect to visualize in realtime. If you mean caustics, TM doesn’t support real caustics however it offers a way to ‘fake it’. In fact it looks quite nice in my opinion.

Re: Twinmotion refraction IOR?

JohnJay — Wed, 12 May 2021 18:00:31 GMT

That's a shame - I do a lot of work with pools so IOR is important to me.

Thanks anyway

Re: Twinmotion refraction IOR?

Emre Senoglu — Wed, 12 May 2021 18:49:29 GMT

i doubt any realtime gpu renderer would be able to give you accurate caustics. corona can calculate good looking (and real) caustics, and im guessing so can vray. i think for being 'fake' caustics, TM actually gives pretty good results. have a look at these two examples.

Re: Twinmotion refraction IOR?

JohnJay — Thu, 03 Jun 2021 18:16:23 GMT

It's the IOR (bending of rays) i'm more interested in, though caustics make a big difference too.

Here's a simple (WIP) example - with and without the correct IOR (1.33 in the case of water) most clearly visible looking at the steps in the pool and the overall pool depth.

And one with caustics too. TM caustics are OK but 'real' caustics are more believable.

Re: Twinmotion refraction IOR?

Emre Senoglu — Thu, 03 Jun 2021 18:51:02 GMT

caustics and real refraction calculations are nowhere close to what gpu's can render realtime for now. even unreal, which i suppose is the most advanced realtime gpu renderer, can't calculate these realtime. so i imagine it will be a long while before you can see actual ior in gpu based (ie realtime) renderers.

quick edit. i think UE has maybe recently added, or is about to add realistic caustics / refraction.

Re: Twinmotion refraction IOR?

JohnJay — Wed, 16 Jun 2021 07:43:17 GMT

thanks - i'll keep an eye on UE

Re: Twinmotion refraction IOR?

Carstenem — Thu, 17 Jun 2021 23:13:48 GMT

you could fake the change in depth in TM like this, not realistic as in real life but hey better than nothing

I did a quick mock up to show you what I mean. In the second image I scaled a copy of the steps by 50% and added a new tiles floor plate which I moved up.