topic Re: [humour?] Want to speak to Diana? in Collaboration with other software

[humour?] Want to speak to Diana?

stefan — Tue, 10 Jan 2006 10:53:31 GMT

http://www.adskhost.com/2005/11/BSD/

Let's suffice to say it's a promotional campaign by Autodesk, but it's quite funny... if you have a soundcard.

Re: [humour?] Want to speak to Diana?

Petros Ioannou — Tue, 10 Jan 2006 11:03:00 GMT

Well somehow I was sure from my first click that she was going to recommend Revit. What a surprise!!!
Do they only attend to male engineers? Maybe they should also create Bob (for ladies)
Anyway , feels like you are talking about CAD with The Stepford Wives.

Petros

Re: [humour?] Want to speak to Diana?

Anonymous — Tue, 10 Jan 2006 13:46:49 GMT

I had a chat with her, she recommended Revit to me as well.

Of course for ArchiCAD users being able to click a wall to insert a door and 'hey you have a door and a hole in the wall too' isn't that impressive, nor finding that moving a window in plan moves it in 3D.

However the option management side of Revit is something that Graphisoft need to look at seriously. I have had a go with a beta of Graphipsoft's Option Manager, but although it showed a lot of promise it struggled with large options. It's also not really promoted by Graphisoft and is only available in the USA for PCs and aimed at housebuilders.

archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=7868&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=desc&highlight=option+manager

I think this should be a major feature for ArchiCAD 11, options are a part of every project.

Re: [humour?] Want to speak to Diana?

Petros Ioannou — Tue, 10 Jan 2006 13:55:00 GMT

Well as for their advertising policy I can't say much...
they are good at it.
Just yesterday morning I received an advertising envelope with a
Working demo version of Revit 8.1 and a "getting started" handbook.
That is aggressive advertisement IMHO!

Petros

Re: [humour?] Want to speak to Diana?

Anonymous — Wed, 11 Jan 2006 13:36:52 GMT

Plenty to learn there then for Graphisoft!

After all I guess most people like a demo they can play with not just a sales pitch. I suspect one reason why Sketchup has done so well is that you can download a working demo instantly.

Diana promised to send me a CD too, not bad going as I only gave her my email address.

Re: [humour?] Want to speak to Diana?

TomWaltz — Wed, 11 Jan 2006 14:11:08 GMT

Andy wrote:
Plenty to learn there then for Graphisoft!

After all I guess most people like a demo they can play with not just a sales pitch. I suspect one reason why Sketchup has done so well is that you can download a working demo instantly.

Diana promised to send me a CD too, not bad going as I only gave her my email address.

I'll tell you, when we bought Archicad, the dealer did the best thing he possibly could. He knew we were going to buy 25 licenses over a couple years, so he loaned us two keys for a week. The IT Director and I tested Archicad against Revit, Vectorworks, ADT, and Microstation demos.

We avoided him long enough to keep them for two weeks, then presented him with a purchase order for $24,000 for the first batch of licenses... the dealer never presented to a single partner or gave a single demo... it was all based off being able to demo it for ourselves.

Re: [humour?] Want to speak to Diana?

Steve Jepson — Wed, 11 Jan 2006 19:39:49 GMT

I tried 4 times with different info and she always recomended Revit.

Can anyone get her to recomend the ADT ?

Re: [humour?] Want to speak to Diana?

TomWaltz — Wed, 11 Jan 2006 19:53:31 GMT

Steve wrote:
I tried 4 times with different info and she always recomended Revit.

Can anyone get her to recomend the ADT ?

You probably have to buy her a few drinks first.

Re: [humour?] Want to speak to Diana?

stefan — Wed, 11 Jan 2006 20:28:11 GMT

Steve wrote:
I tried 4 times with different info and she always recomended Revit.

Can anyone get her to recomend the ADT ?

I said I was working on paper, had a large office, did need to exchange files and came from Africa. And I tried to avoid the BIM subject.

And yes... ADT would solve my problems.

So Diana is not completely Revit-minded...

Re: [humour?] Want to speak to Diana?

Scott Davis — Thu, 12 Jan 2006 07:03:49 GMT

If you tell her that you currently use a highly-customized ADT, she will recommend you stick with ADT.

If you tell her you like doing things the "old fashioned way" she'll recommend ArchiCAD.....J/K!!!!

Re: [humour?] Want to speak to Diana?

Rakela Raul — Thu, 12 Jan 2006 12:12:27 GMT

If you tell her you like doing things the "old fashioned way" she'll recommend ArchiCAD.....J/K!!!!

good one,
but u know what, i think this is the rt time for a ac10 beta tester to say something

Re: [humour?] Want to speak to Diana?

Scott Davis — Thu, 12 Jan 2006 19:07:37 GMT

Rakela wrote:
If you tell her you like doing things the "old fashioned way" she'll recommend ArchiCAD.....J/K!!!!
good one,
but u know what, i think this is the rt time for a ac10 beta tester to say something

Oh yeah? I'm curious to see what AC 10 has in store too. Revit 9.0 will be out in Q1 of 2006, so AC 10 better be good.....

Re: [humour?] Want to speak to Diana?

TomWaltz — Thu, 12 Jan 2006 19:15:42 GMT

Scott wrote:
Rakela wrote:
If you tell her you like doing things the "old fashioned way" she'll recommend ArchiCAD.....J/K!!!!
good one,
but u know what, i think this is the rt time for a ac10 beta tester to say something
Oh yeah? I'm curious to see what AC 10 has in store too. Revit 9.0 will be out in Q1 of 2006, so AC 10 better be good.....

Has there been any feature list/content info for Revit 9 released yet?

Re: [humour?] Want to speak to Diana?

TomWaltz — Thu, 12 Jan 2006 19:24:32 GMT

TomWaltz wrote:
I'll tell you, when we bought Archicad, the dealer did the best thing he possibly could. He knew we were going to buy 25 licenses over a couple years, so he loaned us two keys for a week. The IT Director and I tested Archicad against Revit, Vectorworks, ADT, and Microstation demos.

We avoided him long enough to keep them for two weeks, then presented him with a purchase order for $24,000 for the first batch of licenses... the dealer never presented to a single partner or gave a single demo... it was all based off being able to demo it for ourselves.

You know, if I had the time I wish I could re-do this test and see how the software stacked up now. I know Revit and Vectorworks have made HUGE strides since December 2002.

Re: [humour?] Want to speak to Diana?

Scott Davis — Thu, 12 Jan 2006 21:42:17 GMT

TomWaltz wrote:
Has there been any feature list/content info for Revit 9 released yet?

Can't comment yet...NDA.

Re: [humour?] Want to speak to Diana?

Rakela Raul — Thu, 12 Jan 2006 21:51:15 GMT

You know, if I had the time I wish I could re-do this test and see how the software stacked up now. I know Revit and Vectorworks have made HUGE strides since December 2002.

it used to be a place. i think architecturalcadd or close to that, where u can find competition results among comparable softs....they were given a task to the various soft groups, and were evaluated on diff disciplines like rendering, speed, friendly or not, etc...i remember ac got 1st place in the learning curve a couple of times.....now i wd like to see some results, including xp line software, and others ac/revit like softs.

http://www.architecturalcadd.com/cup/cup00.html

Re: [humour?] Want to speak to Diana?

TomWaltz — Thu, 12 Jan 2006 22:01:50 GMT

Scott wrote:
TomWaltz wrote:
Has there been any feature list/content info for Revit 9 released yet?
Can't comment yet...NDA.

I can relate...... that's why I phrased my question "released", figuring you may know but can't say...

Re: [humour?] Want to speak to Diana?

Djordje — Fri, 13 Jan 2006 07:52:27 GMT

TomWaltz wrote:
Scott wrote:
TomWaltz wrote:
Has there been any feature list/content info for Revit 9 released yet?
Can't comment yet...NDA.
I can relate...... that's why I phrased my question "released", figuring you may know but can't say...

Hah ... imagine an underground clandestine society where ArchiCAD and Revit beta testers exchage notes 😉

THAT would be something to make quite a lot of people quite pi**ed off!

Re: [humour?] Want to speak to Diana?

stefan — Fri, 13 Jan 2006 08:13:49 GMT

Djordje wrote:
Hah ... imagine an underground clandestine society where ArchiCAD and Revit beta testers exchage notes 😉
THAT would be something to make quite a lot of people quite pi**ed off!

Call it .::R3v1C@D::.

Re: [humour?] Want to speak to Diana?

TomWaltz — Fri, 13 Jan 2006 13:48:43 GMT

Djordje wrote:
TomWaltz wrote:
Scott wrote:
Can't comment yet...NDA.
I can relate...... that's why I phrased my question "released", figuring you may know but can't say...
Hah ... imagine an underground clandestine society where ArchiCAD and Revit beta testers exchage notes 😉

THAT would be something to make quite a lot of people quite pi**ed off!

It would be more interesting if the programmers were exchanging notes.... Imagine a clandestine society of programmers scheming to control the architects and their so-called "needs"....