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SketchUp 7 is out

Eduardo Rolon — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 13:25:24 GMT

sketchup

Now with "BIM" capabilities.

Re: SketchUp 7 is out

Eduardo Rolon — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 13:29:18 GMT

Example Video

www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwxfOW2TP9E

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Eduardo Rolon — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 13:57:59 GMT

Link to all videos including "Creating Dynamic Components"

videos

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Chazz — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:05:54 GMT

I have seen the future and it is Sketchup pro. This is a pretty huge upgrade and it takes aim squarely at the BIM players.

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Anonymous — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:23:31 GMT

Each SketchUp new release makes me think that GS has to pull a big rabbit out off the hat very quickly...

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Anonymous — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:25:55 GMT

Braza wrote:
Each SketchUp new release makes me think that GS has to pull a big rabbit out off the hat very quickly...

why the jaws hyperlink? am I missing something?

Re: SketchUp 7 is out

Karl Ottenstein — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:25:41 GMT

Jaws aside (??), the info and videos make SU 7 look like quite a big step forward for SU.

The new 'dynamic components' seem to deliver what the ArchiCAD community has wanted for many years: a way of creating dynamic objects without having to be a programmer.

It's kind of a shame for the AC community that the benefits of the new dynamic components are so very similar to GDL Objects, and yet Graphisoft did not 'corner the market' with patents when they might have had a chance. Had GS offered the kind of object-creation interface that Google provides in SU 7, they would be seeing patent revenue that would provide funds to fix many of our other wishes for ArchiCAD. Now Google no doubt has patented their methodology and if Graphisoft wants to provide us with something similar, the flow of funds will be in the other direction...

Cannot really call SU 7 "BIM" yet though IMHO... but it definitely getting smarter.

Cheers,
Karl

Re: SketchUp 7 is out

Anonymous — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 01:25:02 GMT

I've been a huge sketch-up fan for years and used it more and more until I switched from autocad to archicad. Since then, I have rarely used it at all - I think all Ive done is import one archicad model so that I could create rendered views using the sketchup styles which are better than the archicad sketch rendering.

My question is - for those using archicad, do you use sketchup much, and if so, for what?

new sketchup 7 is available

Anonymous — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 01:46:37 GMT

the section tools is very amazing!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiMA1IAn8HU

and i hope we can walk up/dpwn the stair in archicad

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Dwight — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 02:07:36 GMT

I did not have much respect for or interest in SketchUp until one of my client firms handed me a hi-rise SketchUp model to illustrate in Artlantis. It turns out this application can do way more than turn architecture into a video game.

I am learning it on my laptop in airports for fun and can see it taking over my cartoon presentations all by itself - in conjunction with Artlantis, it has the potential to be the most simple and effective communicator of architectural thought. Most of my personal work is not architecture but rather "public art" so rarely does anything i do turn into a construction document.

My implementation barrier is that I simply know Archicad too well and like anyone earning a living, there's precious little time to experiment with the novel.

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Dennis Lee — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 02:56:00 GMT

I was a big sketchup user prior to switching to ArchiCAD as well, but since then I have drastically cut down my sketchup use. It is quite difficult to be well versed in two programs at the same time for me, and cuts down on the efficiency. Since AC is the more complete package for what I do (architecture), I think I'm on the right path.

On a side note, the beauty of sketch up is like its name suggests, as an easy to use 3d sketch / presentation tool for those types of people who stay in the realm of schematic design. You can add this and that to that, but in the end, it will lose its essence, and become a mediocre bim, mediocre cad package IMHO.

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Anonymous — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 03:21:42 GMT

i've tried to use sketchup, as dwright said, it may be an art tool, and it is not totally for architectural modeling or documentations, so I rarely use it.

I do think it is fun to make some conceptual model or art piece.

p.s. dennis , handling 2 programs is not efficient. for me, it is hard to use wheel button for orbit and shift+wheel button for pan. (reverse from archicad) -.-

Re: SketchUp 7 is out

Anonymous — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 10:06:20 GMT

Lennox wrote:
Braza wrote:
Each SketchUp new release makes me think that GS has to pull a big rabbit out off the hat very quickly...
why the jaws hyperlink? am I missing something?

Just a little metaphor...

Re: SketchUp 7 is out

Anonymous — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:06:57 GMT

Bet Sketchup 7 has no problems exporting to Google Earth. Between Autodesk / Revit buying everything and Google having considerable resources I'm beginning to believe using ArchiCAD is planting oneself on a marooned island. Anyhow this is the real "coming soon"...not the BS that Graphisoft puts on its products page. Simply put I will no longer recommend ArchiCAD to anyone in the market.

Cheers, Gilligan

ArchiCAD 12 build 2325 usa full
windows XPsp3

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Anonymous — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 03:29:42 GMT

i really hope archicad could adapt some advantage in sketchup.

the dimension tool and the annotation in sketchup (is it powerful than 3D documentation in AC?)

and i love that section tool in SU so much (AC must learn it!!!)

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Anonymous — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 03:19:45 GMT

After watching the MEP Modeler Videos, I feel we can expect some major path breaking changes in the next release or two

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stefan — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 08:45:17 GMT

angus wrote:
p.s. dennis , handling 2 programs is not efficient. for me, it is hard to use wheel button for orbit and shift+wheel button for pan. (reverse from archicad) -.-

I switch applications all the time: ArchiCAD, AutoCAD, SketchUp, Artlantis, Cinema4D... It is sometimes about half a minute or so to get back to the regular navigation shortcuts, but after that, I don't feel hindered.
And I'm learning Blender, Rhino, Revit and some MicroStation and VectorWorks too.

I would never stick to a single tool. Maybe I'm overdoing it, but I'm not into architectural practice anymore.

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Dennis Lee — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 00:20:53 GMT

stefan wrote:
angus wrote:
p.s. dennis , handling 2 programs is not efficient. for me, it is hard to use wheel button for orbit and shift+wheel button for pan. (reverse from archicad) -.-
I switch applications all the time: ArchiCAD, AutoCAD, SketchUp, Artlantis, Cinema4D... It is sometimes about half a minute or so to get back to the regular navigation shortcuts, but after that, I don't feel hindered.
And I'm learning Blender, Rhino, Revit and some MicroStation and VectorWorks too.

I would never stick to a single tool. Maybe I'm overdoing it, but I'm not into architectural practice anymore.

Hats off to you. For me, since I am still learning the full capabilities of ArchiCAD, if I keep leaning on Sketchup or other software to do something custom, I will not investigate how to do it in ArchiCAD.

From my experience, learning how to do in in AC has been more productive so far, than doing it in Sketchup or other program, experiment how to export, import, etc., etc..

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Anonymous — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 12:19:08 GMT

Dynamic components are what components should be. This is a very simple idea, that every one here surely had and written about it, but GS never thought is was important. Generally GDL is outdated.

As for patents , i am not familiar with US legislation and pattending, but i wonder how you manage to patent the obvious? Patents should be for important ideas, novel approaches and not obvious stuff.

Thx god breathing air is not patented (yet)

Re: SketchUp 7 is out

TomWaltz — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 13:23:07 GMT

Karl wrote:
It's kind of a shame for the AC community that the benefits of the new dynamic components are so very similar to GDL Objects, and yet Graphisoft did not 'corner the market' with patents when they might have had a chance. Had GS offered the kind of object-creation interface that Google provides in SU 7, they would be seeing patent revenue that would provide funds to fix many of our other wishes for ArchiCAD.

Under that logic, Revit could not have made it's family editor either.

Somehow I doubt any patent Graphisoft filed would have caused another software company to have to pay them to use it.