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Schedule -gsm objects - zone number & name not showing

Anonymous — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:54:23 GMT

I've created a schedule of appliances from gsm objects in Achicad 12. In order to show the room number and location of each appliance, in Scheme Settings/Fields/Available Parameters I've selected General/Zone number and General/ Zone Name. Unfortunately, the zone name and number isn't showing up in my schedule (though it worked in Archicad11). If I select other parameters from the General category such as ID or Layer, it works. Does anyone have a fix for this problem?

Thanks!

Re: Schedule -gsm objects - zone number & name not showi

Laszlo Nagy — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 12:20:58 GMT

The Zone Name and Zone Number return usable values only in case of Zones.

Unfortunately, this is not directly possible because in the Object/Lamp category there is no such listable parameter as "Name of Zone the Object is located in"

In GDL there is a function:

REQUEST ("Zone_relations", "", category_name, code, name, number [ ,category_name2, code2, name2, number2])

This can be used in GDL scripts and will return the name etc. of the Zone the Object is located in.
What can be possible in theory is that you read this value with the above REQUEST function and assign this value to a parameter of the Object.
Then, in the Scheme Settings Dialog you can select this parameter of this object to be listed in the Additional Parameters subDialog of the Scheme Settings Dialog.

Re: Schedule -gsm objects - zone number & name not showi

Karl Ottenstein — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:34:43 GMT

Laszlo,

You are thinking about something entirely different from what the question is!

All objects "know" what zone they are in, and the scheduler will report that zone information (obtained from the General group of parameters). No GDL programming /etc is required for what is being asked.

That said, there is something peculiar going on - as I was able to get a proper schedule of objects and lamps showing what zones they are in in 12 ... but not always. More after a bit more testing in 11 and 12...

Cheers,
Karl

Re: Schedule -gsm objects - zone number & name not showi

Karl Ottenstein — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:49:37 GMT

Well, I get the same behavior from 11 and 12, and it is different from what I remembered it to be.

Zones are 3D objects. I had thought that objects knew what zone they were in purely by whether they were in the 3D space defined by the zone, but that is not the case.

If objects (including lamps) are placed on a floor plan that has defined zones, they will show as being 'in' those zones whether they are physically inside them in 3D or not. But, if there are stacked zones on the same floor plan (say one zone is 0' to 4' and the next zone covers 4' to 10'), then the objects respond to which zone is 'under' them.

If a zone on one story extends into the next story - objects in that higher story will NOT show as belonging to the zone in an object schedule. This is a bug IMHO, or at least an implementation oversight.

Cheers,
Karl

Re: Schedule -gsm objects - zone number & name not showi

Laszlo Nagy — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:52:44 GMT

Karl wrote:
Laszlo,

You are thinking about something entirely different from what the question is!

All objects "know" what zone they are in, and the scheduler will report that zone information (obtained from the General group of parameters). No GDL programming /etc is required for what is being asked.

Yes, it seems like I was a bit slipshod in answering to this question. I have to confess I did not try this myself. Had I done so I would have seen that Zone Name and Zone Number in fact return the name and number of the Zone the Object is placed into. Sorry for the misinformation.

Re: Schedule -gsm objects - zone number & name not showi

Anonymous — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:23:42 GMT

Thanks for the response. I've doubled checked to make sure I don't have zones overlapping into other stories. However, I am still not getting the zones for my gsm objects to show up in my schedules. Any other suggestions? Thanks!

Re: Schedule -gsm objects - zone number & name not showi

Karl Ottenstein — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 20:09:04 GMT

May need some screenshots of your scheme settings, and of a floor plan showing the zones and objects. As I said, it works fine for me...so something between the lines must be the trouble...

Cheers,
Karl

Re: Schedule -gsm objects - zone number & name not showi

Anonymous — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:55:34 GMT

Sorry foor creating a new post, but look at this. Seems to be a similar issue, although I can always get my objects to list their Zone in the schedule.

Re: Schedule -gsm objects - zone number & name not showi

Anonymous — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:56:33 GMT

Oops. Here, look at this:

http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=26946