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3d in the browser - the april fools' joke that wasn't

vistasp — Thu, 23 Apr 2009 13:04:59 GMT

It's still in the nascent stage but it might be something to keep an eye on. Both eyes, actually.

http://sketchupdate.blogspot.com/2009/04/google-puts-3d-on-web-and-its-no-joke.html

Re: 3d in the browser - the april fools' joke that wasn't

Karl Ottenstein — Thu, 23 Apr 2009 14:00:36 GMT

Gave me some good laughs, thanks. 🙂

K

Re: 3d in the browser - the april fools' joke that wasn't

vistasp — Fri, 24 Apr 2009 02:55:29 GMT

I've been had??? OK, one more try...

http://news.google.com/news?um=1&ned=in&hl=en&num=30&q=o3d&cf=all&scoring=n

Re: 3d in the browser - the april fools' joke that wasn't

Anonymous — Fri, 31 Jul 2009 06:54:32 GMT

something similar: http://www.sketchworlds.com
I hope in few time will be possible to publish and share archicad project... any news about VBE? mac version?

Giacomo

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Re: 3d in the browser - the april fools' joke that wasn't

Chazz — Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:13:20 GMT

giacomolongo wrote:
something similar: http://www.sketchworlds.com
I hope in few time will be possible to publish and share archicad project... any news about VBE? mac version?

As I have said endlessly elsewhere on this forum, web based walkthrough this the answer but instead, GS gives us VBE which has to be transmitted, and then played locally on the client's machine. Primitive and short sighted.

Re: 3d in the browser - the april fools' joke that wasn't

Karl Ottenstein — Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:14:12 GMT

Chazz wrote:
giacomolongo wrote:
something similar: http://www.sketchworlds.com
I hope in few time will be possible to publish and share archicad project... any news about VBE? mac version?
As I have said endlessly elsewhere on this forum, web based walkthrough this the answer but instead, GS gives us VBE which has to be transmitted, and then played locally on the client's machine. Primitive and short sighted.

Is there a link to a working model viewer on that sketchworlds site? A demo would be nice to experience rather than just movies.

A web-based viewer would still have to wait for a large download - and then if there is no 'save' option, future views would have to download again if the caching wasn't clever. So, I'm not sure I see the big deal vs VBE - one is a browser-hosted viewing program, the other is standalone.

Karl

Re: 3d in the browser - the april fools' joke that wasn't

Chazz — Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:09:19 GMT

Karl wrote:
A web-based viewer would still have to wait for a large download - and then if there is no 'save' option, future views would have to download again if the caching wasn't clever. So, I'm not sure I see the big deal vs VBE - one is a browser-hosted viewing program, the other is standalone.

When I watch a movie on YouTube, I can begin enjoying (or hating) it almost immediately. The fact that there is some downloading/cacheing/buffering process going on in the background is totally immaterial to me. When that same movie is emailed (if it even can be emailed given its size) or FTP'd etc, it must be received in total before it can be viewed. To me that is a substantial difference.

But the real difference is in the complexity of the viewer. There have been numerous reports of the files not playing properly or giving unexpected results. This does not happen with Youtube or Pandora or any of the other 100% browser-based media sites. For me, the save option would be something I would happily give up in order to have a 100% browser based solution.

Re: 3d in the browser - the april fools' joke that wasn't

Karl Ottenstein — Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:02:38 GMT

Watching a sequential movie is totally different than navigating a 3D model - which requires the entire model to be downloaded. That's why I asked if that site (or any other) had a demo of their web-based 3D viewer...

Cheers,
Karl

Re: 3d in the browser - the april fools' joke that wasn't

Chazz — Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:49:14 GMT

'Knew you'd say that.

QTVR files (which are navigable) allow you to explore and pan around before all the data is local to your machine.

I'm not saying there might not be technical challenges. I'm just saying what I want.

Re: 3d in the browser - the april fools' joke that wasn't

Karl Ottenstein — Sat, 01 Aug 2009 02:07:03 GMT

Chazz wrote:
I'm just saying what I want.

And so you should.

K

Re: 3d in the browser - the april fools' joke that wasn't

Anonymous — Sat, 01 Aug 2009 02:36:01 GMT

Chazz wrote:
QTVR files (which are navigable) allow you to explore and pan around before all the data is local to your machine.

Of course QTVR is still just preset image files cleverly stitched to give the impression of navigating a 3D world (kind of like the original Myst).

Perhaps the better comparison are games like World of Warcraft and Runescape (I have a 12 year old son) or Second Life and such. These allow wandering about a 3D world that loads as you go, but the graphics and models are limited.

It will be interesting to see what comes of this O3D.

Re: 3d in the browser - the april fools' joke that wasn't

Odd Goderstad — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 13:27:11 GMT

Watching a sequential movie is totally different than navigating a 3D model - which requires the entire model to be downloaded

Well actualy this is not needed, the server could do the navigating, and just send the resulting images to the client (you or me)

Re: 3d in the browser - the april fools' joke that wasn't

Anonymous — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 15:42:43 GMT

Hey I got my 3D's to be viewable in a web browser with real time 3D. As there was no solution for Mac users for a virtual building explorer I did a little digging. Now not only can my clients walk through their buildings, but I can also post them up on the web.

http://www.sketch3d.co.uk/real_time_3d_walk_through.php