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!Restored: Pocket Doors in a schedule

Steve Jepson — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 03:09:05 GMT

How do I get the pocked doors not to show up as as right or left hand in a schedule?
I would like to show that there are 4 of the same, not 3 lefts and 1 right when they are exactly the same door.

Re: Pocket Doors in a schedule

Karl Ottenstein — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 03:14:42 GMT

Steve wrote:
How do I get the pocked doors not to show up as as right or left hand in a schedule?
I would like to show that there are 4 of the same, not 3 lefts and 1 right when they are exactly the same door.

I'm not following, Steve. Why would a D1 Pocket 11 show up as a 'left' or 'right', unless you scheduled a field that distinguished one from another? Can you post a screenshot of your schedule results and schedule settings?

Thanks,
Karl

Re: Pocket Doors in a schedule

Steve Jepson — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 03:49:28 GMT

I didn't know pocket doors could be set for right or left orientaion.
Perhaps I have done this with out knowing it.

Notice the 2668 pocket doors.

Re: Pocket Doors in a schedule

Steve Jepson — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 04:01:26 GMT

these are the three pocket doors that should all be the same.
In order to have them show op in the center of the wall I always have to offset them depending on the width of the wall. Perhaps this is what is giving it a designation of right or left orientation.

Re: Pocket Doors in a schedule

Barry Kelly — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 04:27:52 GMT

Steve wrote:
these are the three pocket doors that should all be the same.
In order to have them show op in the center of the wall I always have to offset them depending on the width of the wall. Perhaps this is what is giving it a designation of right or left orientation.

The Left and Right orientation is coming from the way you place the doors.
Because there is no door swing it doesn't matter visually if you click above or below the frames in your example.
You would have just clicked to the left side so they open in that direction on plan.
However click below and to the left means the door will slide left to open.
Clicking above and to the left will mean the door slides to the right to open - but it will appear exactly the same in plan.
Just imagine you are standing on the side of the frame that you click to place the door.

I hope I have explained this clearly enough.
I know what i mean!
Barry.

Re: Pocket Doors in a schedule

Steve Jepson — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 04:43:02 GMT

But why do pocket doors display in a schedule as right or left anyway?
Same for sliding glass doors. I need XOOX or OXXO on the schedule.

Also, I used Control-Alt to make the doors identical, even given them the same ID # and they still show as different doors. 2 of one, one of the other.

My work around is to put a fill over the orientation for those doors.

Same with DBL Bi-fold doors. Why should they be showing up in a schedule as right or left anyway. There must be some setting I am using with out knowing it. I may have to tweak the script for these doors so I will not display orientation in the schedule.

I am not interested in a report of how I placed the door I need the schedules to be useful in ordering materials. This is typical of problems ArchiCAD has with schedules of many other items as well.

Re: Pocket Doors in a schedule

Barry Kelly — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 05:32:45 GMT

Steve wrote:
Same with DBL Bi-fold doors. Why should they be showing up in a schedule as right or left anyway. There must be some setting I am using with out knowing it. I may have to tweak the script for these doors so I will not display orientation in the schedule.

I am not interested in a report of how I placed the door I need the schedules to be useful in ordering materials. This is typical of problems ArchiCAD has with schedules of many other items as well.

You could turn off the Orientation field in the schedule but then of course you wouldn't have it available for your hinged doors.

As far as I know you can't have some doors in a schedule using a field and have other doors ignore it in the same schedule.

The only way I can see it working is to set up a parameter in the objects for the orientaion that you can have set for some doors and left blank in others.
Then use this parameter in your schedule.

Or use the white fill as you mentioned.

Barry.

Re: Pocket Doors in a schedule

Laszlo Nagy — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 17:55:29 GMT

For me orientation makes sense because it can show to which side the door slides when looking at it from that side of the Wall where the Door slides.
Anyway, Steve, here is your solution:

1. Open the Door library part for editing.
2. In the Library Part Editing Dialog, click the Details button.
3. In the Orientation Displaying field select the Custom radio button and clear the L and R texts from the two fields on the right.

You might want to save it under a new file name just in case.

The reason it works is because in this case the two pieces of data will be the same (null character) so it lists them as uniform elements.

Re: Pocket Doors in a schedule

Anonymous — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 00:56:34 GMT

laszlonagy wrote:
For me orientation makes sense because it can show to which side the door slides when looking at it from that side of the Wall where the Door slides.
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but it would vary depending what side of the door your standing on... one side it would be L and the other it would be R....

Re: Pocket Doors in a schedule

Anonymous — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 04:27:54 GMT

GeNOS
For pocket doors (the only exception I can think of right off) is you just have to accept that the "swing"(slide) is based on normal viewing angle of plans, not how it would be in real structure.
Bier
And, back to thread; am I missing something simple on how to get 12 pocket doors to center in wall?
In other words, why is centering grayed out in 12?
And thank you Laszlo for L R deletion info.

Re: Pocket Doors in a schedule

Anonymous — Sun, 21 Sep 2008 20:37:22 GMT

Beir - unfortunately you are not missing something. the new 12 pocket doors just do not display properly in 2D. see http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=24124&highlight=pocket+door

since we just had a hotfix released, hopefully a library update will be forthcoming to fix this soon

Re: Pocket Doors in a schedule

Anonymous — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 05:03:43 GMT

Thanks Scott for the info and link.
I missed that.
Bier