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Wall thickness in Door and window schedule

Anonymous — Sun, 10 May 2009 15:09:02 GMT

Hi, does anybody know if there is a way to add the wall thickness in door and window schedule?

Thanks

Re: Wall thiknes in Door and window schedule

Laszlo Nagy — Sun, 10 May 2009 18:47:23 GMT

giuseppe wrote:
Hi, does anybody know if there is a way to add the wall thickness in door and window schedule?

Thanks

I think it is not possible to do with Interactive Schedules.
In the old Calculate menu lists it was possible to do and should still work.

Re: Wall thiknes in Door and window schedule

Anonymous — Sun, 10 May 2009 18:54:16 GMT

Please, can you be more specific? And what are the steps I need to follow to achieve the result?
Thanks

Re: Wall thiknes in Door and window schedule

Laszlo Nagy — Sun, 10 May 2009 19:12:41 GMT

1. In Navigator, go to Project Map, then find the "lists" group, right-click on it and select "Set Up List Schemes"
2. On the right side, you will see the list of available list schemes. Go to Default Set\Element List Schemes and click the red lock icon to the left of "Window schedule Type 1" to unlock it. This will enable you to modify this scheme.
3. Now on the left side activate the "Properties & parameters" Tab Page (the middle one of the three).
4.In the lower right quadrant of this tab page you will see the "Extra Parameters of the Selected Types" list. Here find the "Thickness of the Wall" item and check the checkbox in front of it. This will mark this parameter to be listed.
5. Click OK to accept changes.
6. In the Project Map, double-click the Lists\Elements\Window schedule Type 1 list to generate the list.

The following ArchiCADWiki article tells you about all these various listing parameters:

http://www.archicadwiki.com/ListingParameters

This is the part about the parameter mentioned above:

http://www.archicadwiki.com/ListingParameters#Thickness_of_the_wall

Re: Wall thiknes in Door and window schedule

Anonymous — Mon, 11 May 2009 14:39:21 GMT

Thanks ,Laszlo,
I follow you instruction to create the schedule but the thickness of the wall it doesn't appear on schedule but on the list.
I need to show up on the schedule. Do you have other suggestions?
Thanks

Re: Wall thiknes in Door and window schedule

Laszlo Nagy — Mon, 11 May 2009 16:45:58 GMT

giuseppe wrote:
Thanks ,Laszlo,
I follow you instruction to create the schedule but the thickness of the wall it doesn't appear on schedule but on the list.
I need to show up on the schedule. Do you have other suggestions?
Thanks

OK, Giuseppe, you are lucky, I found a way for you to show them in the Schedule. Here is how:

1. Go to the Scheme Settings Dialog.
2. Select the Door/Window Schedule you want this to appear on.
3. In the Filed/Window List panel click the "Additional Parameters" button. This take you to another Dialog where you can select any parameter of any library part to be listed in the Schedule.
4. In the Select Object by filed at the top, select "Folder View (Used Objects Only)".
5. In the hierarchy find your Window, for example: "W1 Casement 12.gsm" and select it. All of its parameters will appear in the lower left filed under "Available parameters".
6. In the list of parameters, find the one with the name "Left Connected Wall Thickness". Select it and click the Add button at the bottom to add it to parameters to be listed. Then click OK.

This "Left Connected Wall Thickness" parameter will list the thickness of the Wall the Window is placed into. The reason it is called "Left Connected Wall Thickness" is because this Window can be a corner window and in a corner there is a left and right wall. But if a Window is placed into a normal position in a Wall both left and right will return the thickness of the enclosing Wall.

7. Click OK in the Scheme Settings Dialog to accept changes.
8. Generate you Schedule.
9. In the generated schedule click into the cell that says "Left Connected Wall Thickness" and modify the text to you liking, such as "Wall Thickness".

Re: Wall thiknes in Door and window schedule

Thomas Holm — Mon, 11 May 2009 17:02:18 GMT

Lazlo,

a simply brilliantly creative workaround!

Re: Wall thiknes in Door and window schedule

Laszlo Nagy — Mon, 11 May 2009 17:06:25 GMT

Thanks.
It luckily works because most (if not all) default ArchiCAD Doors/Windows have that parameter.

Re: Wall thickness in Door and window schedule

Anonymous — Mon, 11 May 2009 18:21:42 GMT

Thank you,
Laszlo I'll give a try and I let you know.
Thanks again

Re: Wall thickness in Door and window schedule

Anonymous — Wed, 13 May 2009 02:47:07 GMT

Thanks a lot Laszlo,
I tried and it works.
But when I tried it for the doors, I can't find a similar parameter which gives me the thickness of the wall.
It would be great if you could find it.
Thanks.

Re: Wall thickness in Door and window schedule

Laszlo Nagy — Wed, 13 May 2009 19:17:49 GMT

Hi Giuseppe,
It seems that Doors do not have this parameter so you will have to modify the Doors in your Project.
Here is how to do it:
1. Select the Door on the Floor Plan and use File\Libraries and Objects\Open Object to open it for editing.
2. In the Library Editor Dialog, click New to create a new parameter for the Door. It will appear at the bottom of the list of parameters.
3. In the Variable field enter WallThk, in the Name field enter Wall Thickness.
4. Click the Parameter Script button on the Left to go to the Parameter Script of the Door.
5. Enter the following in the Parameter Script:

PARAMETERS WallThk = WALL_THICKNESS

6. Save your changes.

Note: If your Door is in an LCF file, you will need to save it under a new name because you it cannot be saved back into the LCF file. However, in that case you would have to change all instances of the Door to this new Door object. So the best would be to first extract the LCF into a folder, load that folder as your Library, open the Door for editing, save changes and then you can recreate the LCF if that is better for you (in that case the standard ArchiCAD Door will be overwritten).

So basically what these above steps do is they create a new parameter for the Door into which will be loaded the value of the thickness of the Wall enclosing the Door.
I tried it and it works for me on various Wall thicknesses.

7. Create your Door Schedule similarly to the Window Schedule by adding this parameter of the Door to the parameter to be listed.

Re: Wall thickness in Door and window schedule

Anonymous — Wed, 13 May 2009 22:12:34 GMT

Hi Laszo Thanks again, I'll try tonight, but I am sure it will works,
I let you know
Thanks again.

Re: Wall thickness in Door and window schedule

Anonymous — Fri, 15 May 2009 16:46:44 GMT

Hi, I tried but it doesn't read the thickness of the wall automatically.
Thanks.

Re: Wall thickness in Door and window schedule

Anonymous — Fri, 15 May 2009 20:14:51 GMT

Hi, I was WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I made a mistake on the parameters script.
Now works.
you have been so kind and helpful; please I want to ask an other question how link details of Jam Sill and Head in the same schedule with drawing in the layout?
Thanks a lot laszlo.

Re: Wall thickness in Door and window schedule

Laszlo Nagy — Fri, 15 May 2009 21:39:43 GMT

giuseppe wrote:
Hi, I was WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I made a mistake on the parameters script.
Now works.
you have been so kind and helpful; please I want to ask an other question how link details of Jam Sill and Head in the same schedule with drawing in the layout?
Thanks a lot laszlo.

You are welcome.
Regarding your latest question: can you post an image or drawing of what exactly would you like to have listed in the schedule?
Or maybe I misunderstand something: you want to link something in the schedule to a drawing on a layout?

Re: Wall thickness in Door and window schedule

Anonymous — Sat, 16 May 2009 16:27:26 GMT

Hi, thanks for the answer Laszlo.
How can I link the test of the row in the picture to a sheet or a drawing?
Thanks.

Re: Wall thickness in Door and window schedule

Laszlo Nagy — Mon, 18 May 2009 11:25:10 GMT

Hi Giuseppe,
I honestly don't know what you are trying to do.
Can you elaborate more?
Maybe some sketch or a more detailed description of what you are trying to do would be helpful.

Re: Wall thickness in Door and window schedule

Anonymous — Mon, 18 May 2009 18:43:00 GMT

Laszlo
I would like to associate the text that I put on the parameters of the door: "Sill det, Jam det, Head detail" to a drawing in the sheet so if I move the drawing to another sheet it updates automatically

Re: Wall thickness in Door and window schedule

Anonymous — Mon, 18 May 2009 21:15:25 GMT

It would be a great feature if you could actually refer to actual drawing numbers in a schedule (an autotext reference?), which would stay linked even if renumbered.

Until this happens it is still a manual process, although you can speed this up by selecting the doors on plan that share the same details and select 'List Floor Plan Selection Only' in the right-click menu on the door schedule in navigator, and then use the 'uniform items as single entry' button to help you to enter data into multiple doors at the same time.

Re: Wall thickness in Door and window schedule

Anonymous — Tue, 19 May 2009 13:46:04 GMT

Thanks, I already try with autotext but it doesn't work.
I guess the only option is "manually".
Thanks.
P.S.
I am open for others suggestions