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schedule - can i make one that will ist lines/polylines

Anonymous — Tue, 27 Mar 2012 02:07:45 GMT

anyway of making a schedule that will list lines or polylines and their lengths?

its looking like i cant, but thought i would ask to be sure

thanks in advance
Gene

Re: schedule - can i make one that will ist lines/polylines

Barry Kelly — Tue, 27 Mar 2012 04:41:07 GMT

No unfortunately not.
Element Info is the best you will get for them.
Barry.

Re: schedule - can i make one that will ist lines/polylines

Anonymous — Tue, 27 Mar 2012 04:45:15 GMT

double post

Re: schedule - can i make one that will ist lines/polylines

Anonymous — Tue, 27 Mar 2012 04:51:52 GMT

dang..

im trying to do up a quantity schedule for floor joists and bearers.

i guess its going to have to be modelled up to get the info.

is there a way to get beams to not intersect with each other so i can get there actual lengths into the list/schedule . i want to keep the center lines in the center

Re: schedule - can i make one that will ist lines/polylines

Barry Kelly — Tue, 27 Mar 2012 05:10:17 GMT

GeNOS wrote:
dang..

im trying to do up a quantity schedule for floor joists and bearers.

i guess its going to have to be modelled up to get the info.

That is why it is unfortunate to not be there.
Would also be handy for plumbing and power runs.

GeNOS wrote:
is there a way to get beams to not intersect with each other so i can get there actual lengths into the list/schedule . i want to keep the center lines in the center

If you have the beams in a layer with an "Intersection Priority Number" of 0 (zero) then they will not intersect.

You can control the IPN with you layer combinations so if you want them to intersect in one view they can and then you can have them not intersect in another view.

Barry.

Re: schedule - can i make one that will ist lines/polylines

Anonymous — Tue, 27 Mar 2012 05:28:56 GMT

excellent, thanks for that... one last questions

im trying to get a list that will list all the beams and joist.
im having trouble getting it to list multiple items as a single entry

for example i have these HJ300 joists seen in the attachment in red.
they are all identical but it lists them separately and gives them a quantities of 1..

so 14 beams all the same, listed separately.

Re: schedule - can i make one that will ist lines/polylines

Anonymous — Tue, 27 Mar 2012 05:32:03 GMT

now when i click the "SHOW UNIFORM ITEMS AS SINGLE ENTRY"

it combines them as one entry and 14 as the quantity which is great, but it also combines the length in to a total.. which to me and every other person would read that list as "14 units 62.97m long each" which is incorrect.. anyway to have it combine the 14 units but keep the actual individual unit length size?>?? kinda makes the quantity column useless if it s unable to do so???

Re: schedule - can i make one that will ist lines/polylines

Barry Kelly — Tue, 27 Mar 2012 05:58:35 GMT

It's just another one of the "unfortunate" limitations of the interactive schedules.
Barry.

Re: schedule - can i make one that will ist lines/polylines

Anonymous — Tue, 27 Mar 2012 06:11:57 GMT

devastating

cheers for the help. is there a possible work around to achieve what im after?

Re: schedule - can i make one that will ist lines/polylines

Barry Kelly — Tue, 27 Mar 2012 06:15:51 GMT

Only if you want to delve into the mysteries of the Calculation Menu.
But this is a whole other world of hurt that involves GDL scripting.
Barry.

Re: schedule - can i make one that will ist lines/polylines

Anonymous — Tue, 27 Mar 2012 06:23:25 GMT

bummer.

iv set the Intersection Priority Number to zero like you mentioned.. but it seems that as i work and come back to the floor framing layer that some of the beams are ending up intersecting and some are staying un intersected. even though they were all un intersected in the beginning.

i pull them apart again and over time they end up back being intersected after being untouched

Re: schedule - can i make one that will ist lines/polylines

Barry Kelly — Tue, 27 Mar 2012 10:01:36 GMT

Interesting.
It seems a beam will always grow so that the reference lines touch if you draw one beam just touching the side of the other.
Even if you have the layer intersection priority number set to 0 and the "Clean wall and beam intersections" turned off.

But if you force the beam to stop at the side of the other beam then it shouls stay there regardless of what you do.

Barry.

Re: schedule - can i make one that will ist lines/polylines

Anonymous — Tue, 27 Mar 2012 23:00:29 GMT

ill see how i go with a little more fine tuning.. thanks again for you help.

the more I try to "use" archicad the more disappointed im getting with it.. seems to have all these great inclusions, all of which come to a screaming halt with their limitations. making them to basic to be usfull.

Re: schedule - can i make one that will ist lines/polylines

Anonymous — Sat, 05 May 2012 05:55:06 GMT

I have tried similarly to do what you are trying to do - If you find an answer, please post it.

I did find this however -
http://www.aecbytes.com/tipsandtricks/2010/issue55-archicad.html

And probably more - however associated, but not specifically an answer.
But helpful I found.

Locally - my support - have no answers either .(Well for me it seems.)
Hang in there. ( I was told )

Re: schedule - can i make one that will ist lines/polylines

Anonymous — Mon, 07 May 2012 12:26:49 GMT

A bit knowledge in GDL and calculating script, then you could get amazing result from ArchiCad, schedules are too basic but you get data very quickly that way from your model.