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how can I connect profiles with different angles? OBJECTIVE

Anonymous — Tue, 05 Jul 2011 12:52:59 GMT

Hi, I was trying to model this house (see pictures) and came across a problem, the profiles that I'm trying to connect are the same but when I bend them over H there is no good split option so they can connect nicely! HELP!

Re: how can I connect profiles with different angles? OBJECT

Ralph Wessel — Tue, 05 Jul 2011 14:18:20 GMT

nestorovski wrote:
I was trying to model this house (see pictures) and came across a problem, the profiles that I'm trying to connect are the same but when I bend them over H there is no good split option so they can connect nicely!

The most important issue is the architectural detailing for this junction - then the modelling becomes straight-forward. Off the top of my head, I can think of two ways to build a connection like that, but they look quite different. You have similar issues when deciding how to connect cornices where a horizontal section meets a raking section on a corner. You can't simply connect two identical profiles with a single cut to each. Do you have a sketch of the intended design?

Re: how can I connect profiles with different angles? OBJECT

Ralph Wessel — Tue, 05 Jul 2011 15:34:26 GMT

nestorovski wrote:
the profiles that I'm trying to connect are the same but when I bend them over H there is no good split option so they can connect

Further to your question, do you want the end result to look something like the attached image?

Re: how can I connect profiles with different angles? OBJECT

Anonymous — Tue, 05 Jul 2011 21:14:04 GMT

Ralph wrote:
nestorovski wrote:
the profiles that I'm trying to connect are the same but when I bend them over H there is no good split option so they can connect
Further to your question, do you want the end result to look something like the attached image?

Yes! exactly! how did you do this? thank you so much! Do you have some tutorials from which I can learn how to properly use OBJECTiVE? i LOVE the tool!

Re: how can I connect profiles with different angles? OBJECT

Ralph Wessel — Wed, 06 Jul 2011 16:31:05 GMT

nestorovski wrote:
Yes! exactly! how did you do this? thank you so much!

Before trying this, you should update to the latest version of OBJECTiVE (2.39). There is a minor limitation in the profiled objects that make the following instructions a bit more difficult. OBJECTiVE can upgrade the profiled objects you've already made (with the latest scripts and parameters) if you select them and click the menu OBJECTiVE > Component > Upgrade Object.

The attached image is a view from behind the profile, where you can see an additional triangular wedge that connects the rising and level profiles. To make this, do the following

1. Section profiles have an additional parameter that changes the way the profile shape rises and falls. The default behaviour is for the plane of the profile to be perpendicular to the direction of the extrusion, e.g. it tilts back as the shapes rises. If Keep the profile vertical is checked, the profile is always vertical irrespective of the extrusion direction, i.e. if you cut a section through, you would see the undistorted profile shape.

2. Place a new level profile on the level, running at a tangent to the curve rising section. Because the profile is now vertical, they will meet precisely without any cutting.

3. Then use OBJECTiVE > Tools > Split to cut the 2 level profiles at along the bisecting angle.

Note that there are other ways to solve this problem. If this method doesn't provide the right detailing, we can move on to another solution.

Re: how can I connect profiles with different angles? OBJECT

Anonymous — Fri, 08 Jul 2011 07:19:25 GMT

Ralph wrote:
nestorovski wrote:
Yes! exactly! how did you do this? thank you so much!

Before trying this, you should update to the latest version of OBJECTiVE (2.39). There is a minor limitation in the profiled objects that make the following instructions a bit more difficult. OBJECTiVE can upgrade the profiled objects you've already made (with the latest scripts and parameters) if you select them and click the menu OBJECTiVE > Component > Upgrade Object.

The attached image is a view from behind the profile, where you can see an additional triangular wedge that connects the rising and level profiles. To make this, do the following
1. Section profiles have an additional parameter that changes the way the profile shape rises and falls. The default behavior is for the plane of the profile to be perpendicular to the direction of the extrusion, e.g. it tilts back as the shapes rises. If Keep the profile vertical is checked, the profile is always vertical irrespective of the extrusion direction, i.e. if you cut a section through, you would see the undistorted profile shape.

2. Place a new level profile on the level, running at a tangent to the curve rising section. Because the profile is now vertical, they will meet precisely without any cutting.

3. Then use OBJECTiVE > Tools > Split to cut the 2 level profiles at along the bisecting angle.
Note that there are other ways to solve this problem. If this method doesn't provide the right detailing, we can move on to another solution.

Yeah, I'm still trying, but I haven't really put myself into it. the instructions are great and I will get back to you as soon as I model the cornice! Thank you so much!