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Door Types - how best to?

rob2218 — Tue, 17 Apr 2012 20:56:27 GMT

here's the door list I have.
i want to make it into "Door Types".
How best can I accomplish this?

thanks,
RR

Re: Door Types - how best to?

rob2218 — Tue, 17 Apr 2012 20:57:42 GMT

What I'm hoping someone can point me in the right direction on is...how do I make this "door list" NOT show every single door like in a "door schedule" rather show the typical U.S. door types as created in just about every single generic construction documentation set in the U.S.

Re: Door Types - how best to?

Erika Epstein — Wed, 18 Apr 2012 01:17:01 GMT

As there is no door panel parameter that can be used in the schedules, start by adding one of the door's user defined parameters

Re: Door Types - how best to?

Erika Epstein — Wed, 18 Apr 2012 01:18:29 GMT

In the door's parameter for listing tab fill in the panel type.

Re: Door Types - how best to?

Erika Epstein — Wed, 18 Apr 2012 01:20:11 GMT

In the schedule window, click on the ellipsis to open the schedule cell size. Often a faster way to set the row and column sizes.

Re: Door Types - how best to?

Erika Epstein — Wed, 18 Apr 2012 01:22:56 GMT

click on the Show uniform items as a single entry and here's a door panel schedule.

Re: Door Types - how best to?

rob2218 — Wed, 18 Apr 2012 13:26:02 GMT

your explanation is great Erika.
but...what I'm looking to do is to make "ALL Similar doors" to show up as a one door type.

I have the boxes checked as you stated in your last screen snap shot..yet the doors that are the 'same type' seem to still show up as separate doors.....what am I doing wrong??

Re: Door Types - how best to?

rob2218 — Wed, 18 Apr 2012 13:52:05 GMT

As you can see from my latest screen capture...the "red" circled doors are the same "type" of door as are the "green" circled doors.

Yet...in the DOOR LIST they show up as different doors eventhough I have the check boxes toggled on the upper left hand side......so what I'm trying to accomplish is....to make ALL doors that are the SAME TYPE OF DOOR to only show up once in the DOOR TYPE legend.

it's standard operating protocol in the AEC industry.

Re: Door Types - how best to?

Erika Epstein — Wed, 18 Apr 2012 13:56:30 GMT

Looking at your screenshot, you are including criteria which make doors different, such as the IDs, sizes etc.

You need to be clearer, what you want in the schedule.

Re: Door Types - how best to?

rob2218 — Wed, 18 Apr 2012 14:25:38 GMT

oK....so please, bear with me here. I'm approaching 50 soon...'where' do make it clearer to tell the door list to show similar doors as ONE door type?

Re: Door Types - how best to?

Erika Epstein — Wed, 18 Apr 2012 15:10:13 GMT

rob,
When you say you want ONLY the DOOR TYPES, what is your definition of DOOR TYPE? There is nothing in your schedule called DOOR TYPE.

I, erroneously, thought you meant door panel types as seen in the 3D front view. If that isn't what you meant, then again, what is your definition of DOOR TYPE?
re the 'show uniform items...' only works if ALL the parameters included in the schedule are the SAME.

In your schedule, for example, take the doors 1,3,5,9, 10, 11

-all have the same door panel type as shown in the 3D front view BUT

- Each has a different 2D Symbol
- there are at least 3 different widths
- each has its own ID number

Re: Door Types - how best to?

rob2218 — Wed, 18 Apr 2012 15:15:23 GMT

Yes.....what I mean is the same "door panel type".

In the biz, you could have a door that is 2'-6"x7'-0" and another door that this is 3'-0"x6'-8" YET...these two doors are the same "type". Perhaps when you stated "door panel type" I should have said "yes" I need all the same 'door panel types' that are the same type to be listed only ONCE.

So..yes, "door panel type" to only be shown in it's 3d front view display on the "DOOR TYPE" list only once.

Sorry....it's tough explaining in words precisely what I mean.

Re: Door Types - how best to?

Erika Epstein — Wed, 18 Apr 2012 15:31:04 GMT

so, I had it right to begin with in the panel schedule.

I typically have what you call a DOOR TYPE schedule as I illustrated separate from the door schedule, but on the same page. The door schedule includes the custom parameter for the Panel Type/Door Type.

Re: Door Types - how best to?

rob2218 — Wed, 18 Apr 2012 15:34:43 GMT

Here's another screen capture...I feel I'm getting closer but....i still don't know why or how do I make the doors that are the "same panel type" to read as only 1 door type?

Re: Door Types - how best to?

Erika Epstein — Wed, 18 Apr 2012 15:47:31 GMT

remove the size parameter.

In the schedule I made, notice I did not include sizes as that is not what the panel/door type schedule is for.

The regular door schedule has all the other info such as size and finish etc.

Re: Door Types - how best to?

rob2218 — Wed, 18 Apr 2012 15:49:07 GMT

Awesome!...I'll try that. See if that sets my "door panel types" to only showing ONE of the same type of door panel.

Re: Door Types - how best to?

rob2218 — Wed, 18 Apr 2012 15:58:30 GMT

didn't do it
doors of the same "panel type" still show up as different doors.

I'd love to do a JOIN.ME session with you Erika if you have a sec.

Re: Door Types - how best to?

Erika Epstein — Wed, 18 Apr 2012 16:01:11 GMT

Rob,
The take out the door sizes was a hint.
Look at your schedule. Now take out all other parameters that similarly differentiate doors that share a panel type but differ in other respects.

Re: Door Types - how best to?

rob2218 — Wed, 18 Apr 2012 16:11:38 GMT

OK...let me elaborate on this.
I did take out the "door size" from the parameters and when I did that it only showed me 1 door...one basic door.....and wiped out all the other door panel types.
so..as soon as I added back in the door size....it showed the different door graphics.

Re: Door Types - how best to?

Erika Epstein — Wed, 18 Apr 2012 16:33:53 GMT

Rob,
Go back and reread my original response.
The reason you ended up with 1 door, actually you should have got two D1 15 and D2 15, as these are the two library parts that you used/show in your screenshot.
What you are really wanting to do is schedule are the door PANELS, not the library part. There is no door panel parameter that can be scheduled, so I added the custom one assigning type A, B etc to get around this.

Create a new schedule following the steps I illustrated.
Create a new schedule following the steps I illustrated.