topic Re: Interactive Schedules in Collaboration with other software

Interactive Schedules

Anonymous — Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:58:26 GMT

My door schedule is rounding the door thickness dimension to the nearest 1/4". Ex. 1 3/8" to 1 1/2". I tried changing the dimensioning tolerance for doors but that did not seem to work. Any idea where I can adjust the tolerance.

Re: Interactive Schedules

Laszlo Nagy — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 04:26:56 GMT

I moved your topic to the Schedules group.

Can you post a screenshot of where you tried to adjust those settings?

Re: Interactive Schedules

Anonymous — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 09:55:26 GMT

I am not sure, but may be your problem has root in calculation accuracy. Try to check Options->Project Preferences->Calculation Units.

Re: Interactive Schedules

Anonymous — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 14:56:56 GMT

I adjusted the accuracy under the project preferences>dimensions window/door dimensions

Re: Interactive Schedules

Anonymous — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 15:06:56 GMT

Brad wrote:
I adjusted the accuracy under the project preferences>dimensions window/door dimensions

It's accuracy of windows/doors dimensions on your plans. You have to adjust calculation accuracy.

Re: Interactive Schedules

Laszlo Nagy — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 15:18:35 GMT

It is a tricky thing: the Linear Dimensions accuracy setting controls this field.
I guess the reason for this is that this is not really the Height of Width of Sill of the Door, which have their respective accuracy setting in this same page.
This Panel thickness is a parameter of the Door. Its type if a Length parameter and this is why the Linear Dimension accuracy setting controls it in schedules.

Re: Interactive Schedules

Anonymous — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 16:18:23 GMT

Sorry, Laszlo is right, of course. Calculation units relate List Schemas, not interactive schedules . And, as I understood, W/D Dimensions Preferences regard Dimension Markers only.

Re: Interactive Schedules

Karl Ottenstein — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 17:37:54 GMT

Leo wrote:
Sorry, Laszlo is right, of course. Calculation units relate List Schemas, not interactive schedules . And, as I understood, W/D Dimensions Preferences regard Dimension Markers only.

Don't feel too badly, Leo - there is a bit of a mess between calculation units and dimension units as far as schedules go...

Ever since interactive schedules were introduced, some of the display formatting was determined by dimension units and some was determined by calculation units, without any real logic and making it hard to format different schedules in different ways.

It is still impossible, for example, to have certain volume fields be in cubic feet and others be in cubic yards, for example. (In the US, we often measure concrete and construction fill in cubic yards, and heating volume in cubic feet.) Calculation Units, which would select between the two, are not memorized with a view - they do not have 'named' standards like dimensions that are view-associative.

Thus, it is completely impossible to have some live (interactive) schedules show fills as cu yards and others as cu feet. It has been this way for far too many years. (You can find many old threads here discussing this and other Calc-unit frustrations - as I recall, Duane Valencia was one of the most outspoken critics.)

I cannot remember offhand which other fields are formatted based on the Calculation Units. And, maybe this isn't something that affects the rest of the world (do you measure all volumes in cubic meters?). But, it has been a killer issue for the US for many years.

...By the way, welcome to the forums, I'm sure I am not the only one who has been appreciating your participation here so far...

Cheers,
Karl

PS Also notice another problem we have: the UNITS are not displayed for individual records - only for totals. So, it is essential to include a total line in any schedule that includes volumes just so you know what the units are.

Re: Interactive Schedules

Anonymous — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:07:05 GMT

Karl wrote:
...By the way, welcome to the forums, I'm sure I am not the only one who has been appreciating your participation here so far...

Thank you very much, Karl. I'll try to make myself useful .

I need to explain that I am not an architect. I am solving various problems (as strange behavior, crashes, noneffective usage of software and hardware, etc.) which Russian architects experienced in their computer work.

Now I have to build my knowledge of western architectural practice (so, I am very happy with your kindly explanations), improve skills in remote support, and develop my English. This forums can help me a lot. And I hope that I'll help some members to solve their problems.

Cheers,
Leo

Re: Interactive Schedules

Erika Epstein — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 23:18:42 GMT

Leo,
Your posts have been insightful and stimulating. When Karl, Tom Waltz and many other non-architects joined the forum the quality of the forum, IMHO grew tremendously. The way you approach the program has taught at least this architect so much about how to use it and how to think about problems. It's very refreshing and challenging. So welcome. And I look forward to learning more about Russian architecture.

Re: Interactive Schedules

Anonymous — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 08:57:57 GMT

Hi Erika,

Nice to meet you (can I say in this way at the virtual space?). Thanks for your compliments. It is so exciting to hear "insightful and stimulating" adjectives about my posts rather then "unreadable and too long" .

Re: Interactive Schedules

Anonymous — Mon, 02 Feb 2009 18:04:16 GMT

Hi guys,

I am trying to get the tolerance for this schedule changed to round to the nearest 1/2". After reading your posts above, I messed around and got the window list to change to round to the nearest 1", but then my boss wanted it changed to 1/2" and I can't seem to change it again. I have changed my dimension preferences to round to the nearest 1/2" for linear dims, door and window dims as well. Can someone help me out? Thanks a lot

Re: Interactive Schedules

Anonymous — Mon, 02 Feb 2009 19:10:34 GMT

I got it - it is in working units and levels - I had to set layout dims to the right tolerance. ?? ah i've stopped trying to understand