topic ShareYourDesign in Collaboration with other software

ShareYourDesign

Laszlo Nagy — Fri, 05 Aug 2011 08:23:49 GMT

This is a new web-based BIM collaboration solution for ArchiCAD-based offices.
In the beta phase it is free to use:

http://www.tenlinks.com/news/PR/profm_software/080211_vintocon_partnership.htm

Anyone who have tried it please share you experiences.

Re: ShareYourDesign

Barry Kelly — Fri, 05 Aug 2011 08:59:45 GMT

Couldn't see anything about the actual cost after the free beta period.
Also it looks like you can only share snap shots of your Archicad model.
And all messaging is text based comments?

If the cost is comparable why not just use a web conferencing service and then you can share the full 3D model live while talking to your clients.
These can even be recorded for late playback.

I was curious when you posted this as I am looking for something that will allow me to share a VBE (BIMx) model live over the internet.
From what I have discovered so far is this will not be possible due to the way VBE takes over the screen.
Unfortunately ShareYourDesign is strictly Archicad only.

Barry.

Re: ShareYourDesign

Anonymous — Fri, 05 Aug 2011 11:25:36 GMT

In a nutshell:

1- Click on a element in Archicad (2d or 3d window) and publish it directly through a special menu to a site.

2- Everyone registered on that site receives an email.

3- Everyone can comment on it.

4- If you click on the same element in AC you can go directly to the pertaining discussion.

As there is no online model involved, the access is fast (only images and text), so you can participate in the discussion through a handheld device with low band connection, for instance.

There is lot of room for improvement, but the concept and the foundations are solid. No fancy model that takes ages to upload and needs powerful graphic cards, the string of discussion has a link to model elements, very versatile. You can wait for the El Dorado of a unifying model that is always online and always accessible by every device imaginable, or you can be more productive during the next 15 years and use this kind of simple but efficient tools.

If they implement some additional functions, and the price is right, mho is that it is a product worth looking into.

During this Beta phase you can try it for free, so why don´t you?

Re: ShareYourDesign

JaredBanks — Fri, 05 Aug 2011 19:06:01 GMT

Barry,

Have you tried running VBE / BIMx while sharing your screen via join.me?

Jared

Re: ShareYourDesign

Barry Kelly — Mon, 08 Aug 2011 02:12:04 GMT

Thanks for the suggestion Jared.
But unfortunately still just a black screen when a VBE file is opened.
Barry.

Re: ShareYourDesign

JaredBanks — Mon, 08 Aug 2011 14:39:12 GMT

That's annoying. What about Skype's screen sharing? Probably the same?

Re: ShareYourDesign

Anonymous — Fri, 09 Sep 2011 12:21:05 GMT

A new tutorial video is ready about showing the main goal of Share Your Design: architect-client collaboration. Watch it, comment it, and try it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMmVDOdvJJc
Anyway also the price is available on the Sign Up page.

Re: ShareYourDesign

Rob — Mon, 12 Sep 2011 10:35:26 GMT

To be honest I am not impressed.
I think Skype and/or similar will do the job. Creating a screenshot is as easy as Cmd+Shift+4 at least on Mac.... and common guys who wants to communicate with a client via typing interface?...

Anyway this idea is superseded already... look at the similar concept introduced by Google Wave that failed miserably to get any popularity and eventually got discontinued.

yeah, a good effort but we've been there already....

Re: ShareYourDesign

Anonymous — Mon, 12 Sep 2011 10:57:52 GMT

The main difference is that you get the screenshots indexed to modeled elements. Which means that you can always jump to the modeled element by clicking on the screenshot.

If you have to deal with hundreds of RFIs, this could be a great way of keeping track of them.

Re: ShareYourDesign

Anonymous — Mon, 12 Sep 2011 22:51:29 GMT

Krippahl wrote:
...If you have to deal with hundreds of RFIs, this could be a great way of keeping track of them.

The more automated process most benefits high volume requirements but I think it will be a while before we can work out something better than the current ad hoc approach.

On smaller projects the quick snap and email still seems best. It is also the most flexible, accommodating teams using multiple programs on various platforms.

I'm working on a small science lab building with people using CADDUCT, SprinkCAD, Revit, etc and coordinated in NavisWorks. We are sharing RVT, DWG, NWC/NWD and, of course, PDF files. The coordination meetings use Navis to check that we're getting things sorted and generate the to do lists, but the sticky details we sort out with screen shots and emails between the affected parties. Part of the effect is to dramatically reduce the number of RFIs.

On a large hospital project we had a similar assortment of software involved and thousands of RFIs (not to mention hundreds of COs and almost a hundred ASIs). I found the easiest way to keep track of all of these was as PDFs with labels and comments in the Finder. This was obviously not a project wide solution since I was the only one using Macs, (just my own way of keeping it all straight) but it was not uncommon that others would ask me to sort out one thing or another since I could usually look the stuff up quicker than most.

This is not to say that some simple, single, automated process won't emerge but I suspect that it will have to evolve rather than be invented.

Re: ShareYourDesign

Anonymous — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 11:43:10 GMT

Let me also supplement the comments:

Skype is for only on-line communication. If both parties are on-line, then it is fine to use, but you are right, a personal discussion is much better. That is the moment when SyD is worth to use (or when they don’t have time to meet, but there are questions to clarify). As architect open up the computer and start documenting the building model, add comment to any details that might have questions, needs clarification. Every decision or ongoing issue can easily be added to any drawing element. Later on both the architect and client can watch it, comment it and review it in an ordered way. All the discussions can easily be reached with their history, so there won’t be any opened question or misunderstood concept. You can easily find still opened and already closed topics.

The example with Google Wave is also a very good idea. The only two problems of Google Wave was that it was not focused, you could have many unordered discussions about anything, so that it is not the right way of doing a serious, focused discussion on the planning or construction phase of a building.
The second one - Krippahl also mentioned - it doesn’t work from ArchiCAD. The screen capture could be made on Mac or Windows simply, but that screen capture doesn’t connect to any BIM model element. You even can’t status the particular Message Board in Google Wave (I think they were named “waves”), so it’s not easy to filter on ongoing issues in a particular BIM model (let us imagine that as a successful Architect you have more ongoing projects).

So as a result I would say Skype is a very good tool as well as Google Wave was too, but none of them can be compared to SyD that is a focused application to help the collaboration of architects using ArchiCAD with their clients.

Re: ShareYourDesign

Rob — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 21:07:03 GMT

I agree with Matthew.. it is rather plethora of software that is usually involved. When I worked on bigger projects we used an online project management tool called Aconex. It virtually tracks changes based on drawing revisions and manages all RFIs etc. and much more... it is full on professional thing. I am not sure though how much you have to pay for usage as this was always covered by developer-client expenditure.

Unfortunately a real project workflow is not based on comments per element. Mate, you would end up with thousands of RFIs! Also it does not work across professions this way. At the moment the standard for such communication seems to be the revision process based on paper docs or electronic sheets with full history etc. Remember this industry is using people on a site to deliver the final product so they need a paper to work with. Unless you would like to hand out iPad to every concreter, bricklayer etc ....not really a frugal option I would say.

Re: ShareYourDesign

Anonymous — Wed, 14 Sep 2011 13:40:42 GMT

Robert, Once again, many thanks for your valuable comments, we’ll do our best to process them accordingly (to utilize them in future releases).

Re: ShareYourDesign

aahatimo — Fri, 13 Jul 2012 16:45:38 GMT

any news, improvements or comments about this , 'share your design' program?
http://www.shareyourdesign.com/Default.aspx
i just saw a link to it on jlc online forum.

Re: ShareYourDesign

Anonymous — Mon, 16 Jul 2012 14:39:23 GMT

Sure there are news, check the site on WEB, on twitter and Facebook as well.
- It is no more in Beta
- New functions as redlining
- New languages available as Japanese, German and Hungarian
- You can print out the documentation directly from WEB
and we are working on some extra surprises

Re: ShareYourDesign

Anonymous — Wed, 29 Aug 2012 20:30:42 GMT

The iPad client of Share Your Design is coming soon. We will post here more information about it soon.

Re: ShareYourDesign

Anonymous — Mon, 28 Jan 2013 20:06:48 GMT

After a lots of work we have released the first mobile version of Share Your Design. From now on it is simple to discuss any issues with your Architect, Interior Designer or any kind of Designer.

Another benefit: use your camera to start discussion on the spot, redline the images, add comments and instantly share them with all others working on the same project.

The app is free, download it now from http://bit.ly/iOSSyD!