topic Re: A nice example of how to work with materials - Revit 200 in Collaboration with other software

A nice example of how to work with materials - Revit 2009-10

Eduardo Rolon — Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:14:07 GMT

Envy!

http://designreform.net/2009/07/21/revit-2010-splitting-faces-and-painting-materials/

Re: A nice example of how to work with materials - Revit 200

Anonymous — Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:27:47 GMT

Bah humbug!

Re: A nice example of how to work with materials - Revit 200

Anonymous — Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:14:33 GMT

quickly and conveniently

Re: A nice example of how to work with materials - Revit 200

Rob — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 03:43:53 GMT

OMG, now I do understand why there is so much bitching about the ribbon UI

That's an absolute crap for god sake.... and the particular feature implementation too BTW.

Re: A nice example of how to work with materials - Revit 200

Anonymous — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 08:16:50 GMT

I realized that this talk is not about ribbon, but about division of the wall into materials.

Re: A nice example of how to work with materials - Revit 200

Rob — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:48:54 GMT

yes thank you for reminding me but I reckon that's what the second line of my reply addresses mate.

so again. The way how it is implemented in Revit is a real mess. I fully agree with Steve's short but very well put expression.

Re: A nice example of how to work with materials - Revit 200

MMontgomery — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:43:46 GMT

I'm assuming one would still need to draw the wall section correctly once brick is applied to the lower half of the wall.

A stretchable complex profile can be created in half the time it took to modify that wall - and end up with something not only reusable through the rest of the project but more importantly, accurate in section.

Re: A nice example of how to work with materials - Revit 200

Eduardo Rolon — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:16:26 GMT

AFAIK I wrote 'Materials' not ribbon, not modeling.

What is nice IMO is how to create a new material by splitting one and adding another.

… without having to draw it first, then create a new fill in the attribute manager, then pasting what was already drawn, then creating a new material and assign the fill. Then open Photoshop and create the texture to assign to the new material.

Re: A nice example of how to work with materials - Revit 200

Chazz — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:46:25 GMT

Don't get hung up in the dunderheadedness of the ribbon, there is real gold here.

I love the idea that you could change the location of an element by editing its dimension string text. Or at least looking that the video suggested this could be done. I think that would be a very powerful input method (and one I never thought of).

Re: A nice example of how to work with materials - Revit 200

Rick Thompson — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:20:21 GMT

Chazz wrote:
I love the idea that you could change the location of an element by editing its dimension string text. Or at least looking that the video suggested this could be done. I think that would be a very powerful input method (and one I never thought of).

That's the one that I wanted to. What a great way to nudge a window or wall.. or whatever. That could be very useful. Splitting a wall and applying a different material is quite nice too.

Re: A nice example of how to work with materials - Revit 200

Anonymous — Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:39:58 GMT

In archicad you can do this with profiled walls . Select wall then click capture profile of selection then select edit selection profile . Split wall in profile editor in one or multiple zones and aply different materials with pet menu command set parameter for profile edge changing only one edge of wall .Further you can reopen the wall profile and change the material or height of materials ( using marque rectangle ) with ease and aply to selected wall only . Is up to you to save or not this profile or put it to favorites library . Personal favorites is a real library of such settings and can be a big increase of archicad productivity.
I reopen my old projects and save the settings y like and save them as favorites in a special folder in archicad . When i need i import in favorites for example the stone and wood siding walls
THIS TECHNIQUE IS SUPERIOR TO REVIT BECAUSE YOU CAN CHANGE EVEN THE GEOMETRY OF WALL IF YOU WANT AND PUT THE NEW MATERIAL THICKNESS IN DIFFERENT COLOR AND FILL IN SECTION
NOT TO MENTION THE WALL ADDONS OR WALL ACCESORIES .

Re: A nice example of how to work with materials - Revit 200

Anonymous — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 12:52:32 GMT

This feature has been in Revit since i Remember learning it. It is a great way to do interior elevations with out having to draft everything in a 2d view like in archicad. ArchiCAD loyalist are to stubborn to see how well that works to create interior elevation, or to do schematic design. It is also nice not to have to make an over complicated wall type just to show a different base option could look. Also, it dosn't mess up how the wall will look in plan, and as far as sections go, it has been my experience with ALL BIM software that i have used that the model is a very rough base for a drafter to use to add 2d elements to draft the section correctly. So to me it makes a lot of sense for Architects, (who are not always cpu experts that can create complicated wall profiles and save them in multiple folders to be used again in the future) to be able to quickly and, most importantly, easily change the model to correctly display their design intent. That's just my 2 cents though, i'm sure there is some fancy way or some add on to buy that will make archicad do the same thing, but Revit dose it out of the box, so don't be sour that the competitors product listens to their clients and makes the program work.

Re: A nice example of how to work with materials - Revit 200

Anonymous — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 20:48:36 GMT

Hence wrote:
(...) and as far as sections go, it has been my experience with ALL BIM software that i have used that the model is a very rough base for a drafter to use to add 2d elements to draft the section correctly.

I was going to ask what kind of experience you had to make such a statement, but then I read your signature and had an AHA moment.
😉

Re: A nice example of how to work with materials - Revit 200

Anonymous — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 07:32:49 GMT

this is a cool feature for design development, great for quick design changes... though I would usually have already figured that out with a quick sketch paper drawing. Yeah, I still use a pencil or pen from time to time.

What I really want is a relationship between basic modeling elements...so I can link my finish surfaces to my structural elements..... I need to make this a wish (or vote for an existing one)
besides, it is pretty rare when tile, thin-brick, or stone is flush with the gyp. bd.