topic Re: Composite structures in Collaboration with other software

Composite structures

Anonymous — Sun, 30 Jan 2011 14:51:10 GMT

Is there a way to list each skin properties of a complex structures?
I am trying to list insulation volume and surface,
apart from a core of a complex wall ...

Re: Composite structures

Anonymous — Mon, 31 Jan 2011 09:47:15 GMT

Till now I was unable to discover any method to do this. AC 14 schedule list only entire volume of the composite wall. The one workaround is to export to Calc (OO) or Excel (MO) and there add aditional calculations to get the volume for each skin.

If you use composite walls with insulation skin that goes on top of the slab (see the image), you must add some correctional factors to the volume calculations. In this case: Skin 1...V1=V1/1,03; Skin 2...V2=V2/1,03; Skin 3...V3=V3×1,06; Skin 4...V4=V4×1,04.

Re: Composite structures

Anonymous — Mon, 31 Jan 2011 23:29:46 GMT

Yes, that is a way to get separate volumes,
but workaround is something why people don't like ArchiCAD,
especially when problem is simple like this one...

Re: Composite structures

Anonymous — Tue, 01 Feb 2011 00:44:44 GMT

dasneboja wrote:
...but workaround is something why people don't like ArchiCAD...

Of course ArchiCAD is the worst BIM program there is. Aside from all the others.

I have used most of the BIM programs around (and many that are no longer around) and am at least passingly familiar with the rest. They all have their plusses and minuses but on the whole I find ArchiCAD to be the most productive and reliable of the lot.

Since there is no way the developers can anticipate all our needs or even fit in all the features they want to, workarounds are necessary part of the process and will be for the foreseeable future. One of my pet peeves with Revit is its lack of workarounds.

Re: Composite structures

Laszlo Nagy — Tue, 01 Feb 2011 21:57:45 GMT

dasneboja wrote:
Is there a way to list each skin properties of a complex structures?
I am trying to list insulation volume and surface,
apart from a core of a complex wall ...

If you are feeling adventurous you can check out the SQL queries of ArchiCAD.
I think they can get you those skin parameters listed.
Here is an article to start with:

http://www.archicadwiki.com/TechNotes/Using%20SQL%20Queries%20within%20ArchiCAD

Re: Composite structures

Anonymous — Wed, 02 Feb 2011 09:00:11 GMT

Hi,

I was also looking for long to solve this problem, and as usually it was in front of me

I think tis link gives the easiest solution to calculate volumes and surfaces of composite components.

http://www.archicadwiki.com/TechNotes/Listing%20Component%20Data%20of%20Complex%20Structures?highlight=%28CategoryCalculation%29

Best regards,

Edward(Ede)

Re: Composite structures

Laszlo Nagy — Wed, 02 Feb 2011 12:29:56 GMT

Of course, how could we miss that?!

Re: Composite structures

Ernest Atanasiu — Wed, 02 Feb 2011 21:42:18 GMT

Ede wrote:
Hi,

I was also looking for long to solve this problem, and as usually it was in front of me

I think tis link gives the easiest solution to calculate volumes and surfaces of composite components.

http://www.archicadwiki.com/TechNotes/Listing%20Component%20Data%20of%20Complex%20Structures?highlight=%28CategoryCalculation%29

Best regards,

Edward(Ede)

There is one step missing from that explanation: you have to add a new scheme with "Components" as items. Otherwise the components parameters are not available.

Re: Composite structures

Anonymous — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 07:09:31 GMT

Hi,

I checked also for AC 12 and it appears to be present by default, schedules has two subcategories Elements and Component, if not try to use New & Reset All (Ctrl+Alt+N)

Have fun,

and thank's ?!

Re: Composite structures

Anonymous — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 22:45:29 GMT

Tnx Ede,
"component" is present by default and it works fine!

Re: Composite structures

Anonymous — Mon, 16 Jan 2012 07:55:04 GMT

I'm sorry, I can't reach the page on ArchiWIKI You linked to.
It says it doesn't exist yet (???)
Were You just joking or is there really a way to calculate core only?

Re: Composite structures

Barry Kelly — Mon, 16 Jan 2012 08:04:42 GMT

Filip wrote:
I'm sorry, I can't reach the page on ArchiWIKI You linked to.
It says it doesn't exist yet (???)
Were You just joking or is there really a way to calculate core only?

They must have changed its location.
Try this ...

http://www.archicadwiki.com/ListingComponentDataOfComplexStructures

Barry.

Re: Composite structures

Anonymous — Mon, 16 Jan 2012 09:17:26 GMT

Oh, yes, thanks.
This should do it.
I'll try what they say and see if it works.

Re: Composite structures

Scott Bulmer — Sun, 22 Jan 2012 19:54:17 GMT

Related question:

For Complex Profiles, is it possible to include the actual profile shape as one of the schedule fields, similar to the front elevation of windows, doors or the 2D representation of objects when scheduled? The section cut of the profile would be the same as that seen as a preview when skimming through profiles in the Profile Manager.

Thx, Scott