https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/MaxonForm-for-AC10/m-p/23258#M1997 [Edit: Found out a little more on MaxonForm Plugin v Add-On]<BR /> <BR /> Sorry if this has been covered already but this affair is starting to really piss me off and i have just spend half an hour on the phone with our local reseller trying to clear things up as neither of us was really sure what was going on with MaxonForm. Our understanding as follows - please correct any incorrect information.<BR /> <BR /> Maxonform refers to two things:<BR /> <BR /> 1. MaxonForm Plugin (approx. $AU 800) - Stand-alone application (i.e C4D 'Lite') for those who don't already own C4D.<BR /> 2. MaxonForm Add-on (approx. $AU 180) - Addon for Archicad which will access to your existing full C4D application.<BR /> <BR /> Archicad 10 is essentially a Universal Binary application - it was just released on different CD's (PPC and Intel) due to timing, not because the code could not be compiled as a UB (correct me here please, i have little idea about programming).<BR /> <BR /> Cinema4D R9.5 and R10 are BOTH Universal Binaries.<BR /> <BR /> There is a version of Maxonform available for AC10 Intel but it is based on the PPC version C4D R9.1 and so runs under Rosetta on Intel Macs.<BR /> <BR /> The AC10 Add-On works to C4D r9.5 PPC versions only, not Intel. So if you had 9.5 installed on an Intel Mac using Pre-UB disks, the MaxonForm Add-On would work as R9.5 would be running as PPC under Rosetta. However if you upgraded to the UB version of 9.5 you would now be running an Intel native version and the Add-On would not work with this, only the PPC version.<BR /> <BR /> Why are these not based on the UB version of C4D R9.5 given 9.5 has been UB since the Intel Macs came out (i.e at least Feb 2006 according to a newsletter from our local C4D reseller)<BR /> <BR /> How damn hard can it be to get the Add-On sorted out for two applications which have BOTH been UBs for over 6 months now??? I *really* hope the Add-on is not being held up while you sort out issues with the MaxonForm Plug-in application...<BR /> <BR /> Sorry if I'm getting a little irritated but we have people sitting here on Mac Pros running AC10 and C4D 10 and their workflow is stuffed due to GS not getting their resources sorted for something (Mactels and UBs) they knew was coming a long long time ago <IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_rolleyes.gif" style="display : inline;" /><BR /> <BR /> Seriously i'm wondering why GS even bothers with the MaxonForm Plugin when people can buy a full license of C4D for a little over double the price of MaxonForm and just use the Add-On. We just paid $AU 4000 for 2 more C4D10's, Maxonform would have cost around $AU 1600-1700 and does not provide all the functionality of C4D. GS should ditch the Plug-in and concentrate on the Add-On a a free interface to full C4D. They obviously have difficulty maintaining the Plugin and charging people extra to link to another application which compensates for ArchiCAD's modeling shortcomings is not cool...<BR /> <BLOCKQUOTE>gkovacsp wrote:<BR />There is no date set yet, but no sooner, than the MaxonForm update for the next ArchiCAD version.</BLOCKQUOTE> Sorry might just be a misunderstanding but to me that says:<BR /> <BR /> 'MaxonForm Addon &amp; Plugin for AC10 Intel will not be available for Cinema4D 10 Intel before the next version of ArchiCAD'<BR /> <BR /> What do you mean by version? The next patch or AC11... Fri, 09 Mar 2007 00:49:34 GMT owen 2007-03-09T00:49:34Z https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/MaxonForm-for-AC10/m-p/23224#M1963 <DIV class="actalk-migrated-content"><T>Is there a MaxonForm for AC10 yet? (preferrably an edu version)</T></DIV> Tue, 04 Jul 2006 20:12:34 GMT https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/MaxonForm-for-AC10/m-p/23224#M1963 Anonymous 2006-07-04T20:12:34Z https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/MaxonForm-for-AC10/m-p/23225#M1964 Hi! Im needing maxonform for 10 so much, reaaaaaaaaaally. Im using the 3dsIn addon to communicate with Maxon and its a very slow process...<BR /> <BR /> Please users lets make pressure for this upgrade Lets make us heard! Graphisoft people here we are! <IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_lol.gif" style="display : inline;" /> <BR /> Thanx! Mon, 10 Jul 2006 18:17:13 GMT https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/MaxonForm-for-AC10/m-p/23225#M1964 Anonymous 2006-07-10T18:17:13Z https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/MaxonForm-for-AC10/m-p/23226#M1965 Did Graphisoft make that? Or does Maxon? I thought Maxon made it. Mon, 10 Jul 2006 18:24:08 GMT https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/MaxonForm-for-AC10/m-p/23226#M1965 TomWaltz 2006-07-10T18:24:08Z https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/MaxonForm-for-AC10/m-p/23227#M1966 <BLOCKQUOTE>TomWaltz wrote:<BR />Did Graphisoft make that? Or does Maxon? I thought Maxon made it.</BLOCKQUOTE> i think there's some kind of grey, middle ground there . . . GS are definitely responsible for the AC&gt;maxonform plugin . . . .<BR /> <BR /> ~/archiben Mon, 10 Jul 2006 21:32:40 GMT https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/MaxonForm-for-AC10/m-p/23227#M1966 __archiben 2006-07-10T21:32:40Z https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/MaxonForm-for-AC10/m-p/23228#M1967 Maxonform communication plugin is developed by Graphisoft... Cinema4D is a Maxon Product.... so the upgrade should come from Graphisoft guys....<BR /> <BR /> <BR /> They gave us "Freedom", we were used to it... Now we want it back!<BR /> <BR /> <IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_cry.gif" style="display : inline;" /> <IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_cry.gif" style="display : inline;" /> <IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_cry.gif" style="display : inline;" /> <BR /> <BR /> Pleeeeeeease Graphisoft upgrade the plugins for such good product.<BR /> <BR /> SALUDOS! Tue, 11 Jul 2006 03:55:15 GMT https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/MaxonForm-for-AC10/m-p/23228#M1967 Anonymous 2006-07-11T03:55:15Z https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/MaxonForm-for-AC10/m-p/23229#M1968 Im waiting as well, graphisoft plz!! Fri, 14 Jul 2006 01:53:21 GMT https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/MaxonForm-for-AC10/m-p/23229#M1968 Anonymous 2006-07-14T01:53:21Z https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/MaxonForm-for-AC10/m-p/23230#M1969 hi,<BR /> <BR /> should come up next month (information from my ac-dealer) Sat, 15 Jul 2006 04:24:22 GMT https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/MaxonForm-for-AC10/m-p/23230#M1969 Anonymous 2006-07-15T04:24:22Z https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/MaxonForm-for-AC10/m-p/23231#M1970 thats great!! Wed, 19 Jul 2006 11:55:08 GMT https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/MaxonForm-for-AC10/m-p/23231#M1970 Anonymous 2006-07-19T11:55:08Z https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/MaxonForm-for-AC10/m-p/23232#M1971 Talk to your Archicad provider ... it should be out! Fri, 11 Aug 2006 06:55:10 GMT https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/MaxonForm-for-AC10/m-p/23232#M1971 Djordje 2006-08-11T06:55:10Z https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/MaxonForm-for-AC10/m-p/23233#M1972 Is there a student version of it out yet? Possibly for Mactel? Also, whats the best way to learn it quickly...books, dvds, etc?? Fri, 11 Aug 2006 14:26:09 GMT https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/MaxonForm-for-AC10/m-p/23233#M1972 Anonymous 2006-08-11T14:26:09Z https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/MaxonForm-for-AC10/m-p/23234#M1973 Are you guys kidding or something?<BR /> <BR /> Is true that someday we will get the upgrade?<BR /> <BR /> I dont even think to start using AC10 without maxonform, becos I'm a cinema4d fan.<BR /> <BR /> So I think I'm stuck with 9.<BR /> SALUDOS! Wed, 23 Aug 2006 15:59:26 GMT https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/MaxonForm-for-AC10/m-p/23234#M1973 Anonymous 2006-08-23T15:59:26Z https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/MaxonForm-for-AC10/m-p/23235#M1974 <BLOCKQUOTE>vedderista wrote:<BR />Are you guys kidding or something?<BR /> <BR /> Is true that someday we will get the upgrade?<BR /> <BR /> I dont even think to start using AC10 without maxonform, becos I'm a cinema4d fan.<BR /> <BR /> So I think I'm stuck with 9.<BR /> SALUDOS!</BLOCKQUOTE> <A href="http://www.graphisoft.com/support/maxonform/" target="_blank">http://www.graphisoft.com/support/maxonform/</A> Wed, 23 Aug 2006 16:25:33 GMT https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/MaxonForm-for-AC10/m-p/23235#M1974 Djordje 2006-08-23T16:25:33Z https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/MaxonForm-for-AC10/m-p/23236#M1975 Mr. Djordie thanx so much for the info!<BR /> THANX! and thanx Graphisoft! Sat, 26 Aug 2006 21:14:57 GMT https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/MaxonForm-for-AC10/m-p/23236#M1975 Anonymous 2006-08-26T21:14:57Z https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/MaxonForm-for-AC10/m-p/23237#M1976 <A href="http://www.graphisoft.com/support/maxonform/downloads/" target="_blank">http://www.graphisoft.com/support/maxonform/downloads/</A><BR /> - somebody knows when it will be ready for Mactel? Thu, 31 Aug 2006 11:27:29 GMT https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/MaxonForm-for-AC10/m-p/23237#M1976 Rafal SLEK 2006-08-31T11:27:29Z https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/MaxonForm-for-AC10/m-p/23238#M1977 MAXON is not listed on Graphisoft's Product Overview.... only Artlantis for rendering. Maybe this hints at the lack of support for LightWorks and a C4d plug-in. <BR /> <BR /> <A href="http://www.graphisoft.com/company/about_graphisoft/product_overview/" target="_blank"><LINK_TEXT text="http://www.graphisoft.com/company/about ... _overview/">http://www.graphisoft.com/company/about_graphisoft/product_overview/</LINK_TEXT></A> Tue, 05 Sep 2006 17:13:59 GMT https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/MaxonForm-for-AC10/m-p/23238#M1977 Anonymous 2006-09-05T17:13:59Z https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/MaxonForm-for-AC10/m-p/23239#M1978 It is out for PC and PPC Mac:<BR /> <BR /> <A href="http://www.graphisoft.com/support/maxonform/" target="_blank">http://www.graphisoft.com/support/maxonform/</A><BR /> <BR /> We now need an IntelMac version. The AC add-in does not even install on my MacBook Pro.<BR /> <BR /> I tried it at work on a PC with Cinema4D and it worked fine.<BR /> <BR /> Enjoy,<BR /> <BR /> D Sat, 16 Sep 2006 20:02:28 GMT https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/MaxonForm-for-AC10/m-p/23239#M1978 Anonymous 2006-09-16T20:02:28Z https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/MaxonForm-for-AC10/m-p/23240#M1979 It is very frustrating to try to contact the forums at both graphisoft and maxon and be stone walled every time one asks about maxonform for intel macs. Is there no time frame for this update? What makes it even more frustrating is the speed disadvantage one has to continually live with by being forced to use a PPC mac when both the base programs already exist for the intel machines and the only thing lacking is the AC plug-in. And the 3ds exp-import solution wastes even more time than just staying on a PPC mac. <BR /> <BR /> Please tell us all when the new plug is coming!!!! <BR /> <BR /> felix b. Sun, 17 Sep 2006 13:14:01 GMT https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/MaxonForm-for-AC10/m-p/23240#M1979 Anonymous 2006-09-17T13:14:01Z https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/MaxonForm-for-AC10/m-p/23241#M1980 <BLOCKQUOTE>felixtb wrote:<BR />Please tell us all when the new plug is coming!!!!</BLOCKQUOTE> The lack of communication from Graphisoft regarding a timeline for the plug-in is particularly surprising and unprofessional considering all of the press releases that they and CEO Gallello made about the 'power' of MaxonForm. <BR /> <BR /> <A href="http://www.graphisoft.com/company/ontheroad/shapeofthings.html" target="_blank"><LINK_TEXT text="http://www.graphisoft.com/company/onthe ... hings.html">http://www.graphisoft.com/company/ontheroad/shapeofthings.html</LINK_TEXT></A><BR /> <BR /> I've never quite understood why GS does not appear to have either a marketing or a public relations department, even if that department is one person...<BR /> <BR /> Karl Mon, 25 Sep 2006 18:59:01 GMT https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/MaxonForm-for-AC10/m-p/23241#M1980 Karl Ottenstein 2006-09-25T18:59:01Z https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/MaxonForm-for-AC10/m-p/23242#M1981 <BLOCKQUOTE>Karl wrote:<BR />I've never quite understood why GS does not appear to have either a marketing or a public relations department, even if that department is one person...</BLOCKQUOTE> There clearly seems to be a <I></I><S><I><I></I></I></S>marketing<E></E> department (which often seems to have undo influence over programming decisions). What appears to be lacking is the public relations part. Mon, 25 Sep 2006 20:14:15 GMT https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/MaxonForm-for-AC10/m-p/23242#M1981 Anonymous 2006-09-25T20:14:15Z https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/MaxonForm-for-AC10/m-p/23243#M1982 Dear MaxonForm users,<BR /> <BR /> the MaxonForm modeler we have is based on Cinema4D 9.1 - which was not a native Mac-Intel application.<BR /> Of course the next time we update the modeler we will run native on Mac-Intel computers.<BR /> <BR /> In the meantime we are working on a solution to use our existing modeler running under Rosetta to communicate with the native Archicad 10 Mac-Intel version.<BR /> This development is under way and we will publish it as soon as it is completed as a free downloadable upgrade.<BR /> <BR /> Gabor Thu, 28 Sep 2006 13:59:22 GMT https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/MaxonForm-for-AC10/m-p/23243#M1982 gkovacsp 2006-09-28T13:59:22Z