topic Re: IS Headline Settings in Collaboration with other software

IS Headline Settings

Laura Yanoviak — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 17:09:53 GMT

When I originally set up this IS, I wanted the first three schedule fields to appear in the headlines -- I think I did this via Headline Settings... -- I have since eliminated schedule field three, and want to use the first two schedule fields as a headline. When I revisit Headline Settings... I am only given the option to use "The first schedule field", which does nothing. Once one merges more than one field into a headline, can that not be redefined? Am I going to have to recreate my IS?

Re: IS Headline Settings

Anonymous — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 20:18:17 GMT

I've found only one solution - export the schedule and modify "Headline" node in the exported XML file. It is <Headline_Number value="1"/> by default, so just change 1 to the number of the last column, which you want to see in the headline.

Re: IS Headline Settings

Karl Ottenstein — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 20:38:55 GMT

Hi Laura,

Your signature just lists 10 and 11, so assume you have this issue in 11? I just tried 11 and 12 on Mac, and whether I delete fields or not after having set them in the Hdeadline, all works fine. The dropdown list gives all options...UNLESS I delete enough fields so that the schedule has fewer fields than the Headline was looking for. Then, I see what you are seeing.

The solution seems really easy and does not seem to require any XML, unless I'm missing what Leo is after.

Just add a bunch of fields to your schedule (with the intent of deleting them later - so no matter what fields). Now, your Headline Settings displays the correct thing. Change the selection to First Schedule Field, and then delete the bogus fields that you had added in Scheme Settings. Then, fix your headline.

Cheers,
Karl

Re: IS Headline Settings

Anonymous — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 21:14:45 GMT

Hi Karl,

I miss the information from Laura's signature, so I reproduce the situation in ArchiCAD 12 Win. And I have only one option for a normal schedule with a lot of columns, as Laura has. So, I apply my lateral thinking, as usual .

Re: IS Headline Settings

Laura Yanoviak — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 22:04:21 GMT

Karl wrote:
Hi Laura,

Your signature just lists 10 and 11, so assume you have this issue in 11?

Yes, AC11, I should have specified. It's also Teamworked.

Karl wrote:
I just tried 11 and 12 on Mac, and whether I delete fields or not after having set them in the Hdeadline, all works fine. The dropdown list gives all options...UNLESS I delete enough fields so that the schedule has fewer fields than the Headline was looking for. Then, I see what you are seeing.

The solution seems really easy and does not seem to require any XML, unless I'm missing what Leo is after.

Just add a bunch of fields to your schedule (with the intent of deleting them later - so no matter what fields). Now, your Headline Settings displays the correct thing. Change the selection to First Schedule Field, and then delete the bogus fields that you had added in Scheme Settings. Then, fix your headline.

I had 25 fields, and I deleted one. I tried your suggestion, but I'm still only offered the "First scheduled field" option. When I accept that option with an "OK" -- nothing happens.

Re: IS Headline Settings

Karl Ottenstein — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:22:51 GMT

Hmmm. Must be a Windows thing, since Leo sees the same behavior. His suggestion makes sense - save the scheme, edit it as he says in a text editor and re-import the scheme.

Karl

Re: IS Headline Settings

Karl Ottenstein — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:25:05 GMT

Leo wrote:
So, I apply my lateral thinking, as usual .

Given your avatar, Leo, maybe we should call it 'diagonal thinking'!

K

Re: IS Headline Settings

Anonymous — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 17:07:47 GMT

Karl wrote:
Given your avatar, Leo, maybe we should call it 'diagonal thinking'!

K

Wow! Just up to the point . ArchiCAD has so many corners, which make us to draw so many diagonals! I guess the knowledge influences my avatar .

Re: IS Headline Settings

Laura Yanoviak — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 18:28:04 GMT

Karl wrote:
Hmmm. Must be a Windows thing, since Leo sees the same behavior. His suggestion makes sense - save the scheme, edit it as he says in a text editor and re-import the scheme.

Well, I know nothing about XML, so I just recreated the IS. Smells like a bug to me...

Re: IS Headline Settings

Barry Kelly — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 01:35:35 GMT

Laura wrote:
Well, I know nothing about XML, so I just recreated the IS. Smells like a bug to me...

Laura,
Could you please show us an image of your new schedule so we can see how you want the headings and can compare to your first image?
Thanks.
Barry.

Re: IS Headline Settings

Laura Yanoviak — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 17:01:31 GMT

Barry wrote:
Could you please show us an image of your new schedule so we can see how you want the headings and can compare to your first image?

Here is a screen shot of the re-created IS, along with the limited options within the Headline Settings dialog.

Re: IS Headline Settings

Laura Yanoviak — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 17:05:12 GMT

Here is a screen shot of a brand-new IS -- note the multiple options in the Headline Settings. I can't figure out at what point the options become limited -- I've tried Sending & Receiving and rebooting AC, but I still have multiple options in the brand-new IS, but limited options in the IS I created yesterday. I have not tried shutting down completely, maybe when I have the time...

Re: IS Headline Settings

Erika Epstein — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 17:35:30 GMT

I couldn't reproduce the problem on PC, didn't try the mac, but Murphy's law it will happen as soon as I finish this post.

I was wondering, in the headline when you have more than one field, if it is in bold you have a comma between, if not bold a period. Where is this setting?

Re: IS Headline Settings

Laura Yanoviak — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 17:38:03 GMT

Erika wrote:
I was wondering, in the headline when you have more than one field, if it is in bold you have a comma between, if not bold a period. Where is this setting?

This distinction does not occur in AC11, maybe this is new in AC12? In AC11, there is no setting to control the "delimiter" (or the character between the two fields) -- we run a Find and Replace in Excel to get rid of them.

Re: IS Headline Settings

Erika Epstein — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 19:01:03 GMT

Laura wrote:
"delimiter".

Thanks, I didn't know what it was called. I used AC11 to match your problem. Hmmm

Where are you running the find & select?

Re: IS Headline Settings

Laura Yanoviak — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 19:06:09 GMT

Erika wrote:
Where are you running the find & select?

Excel -- as we all know, IS formatting is very limited -- these FF&E schedules are exported to a pre-formatted Excel template, and the worksheets printed and included in the Specifications.

Re: IS Headline Settings

Erika Epstein — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 19:29:38 GMT

OK, thought you were doing it in AC.
Is there a way to edit this in AC?

Re: IS Headline Settings

Laura Yanoviak — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 22:50:34 GMT

Erika wrote:
Is there a way to edit this in AC?

Not in AC11 -- AC12, I don't know.

Re: IS Headline Settings

Barry Kelly — Fri, 20 Feb 2009 02:57:00 GMT

Laura wrote:
Here is a screen shot of a brand-new IS -- note the multiple options in the Headline Settings.

Thank you Laura.
I thought you could only use the first field as the headline.
I can see a use for this already.

Laura wrote:
I can't figure out at what point the options become limited...

I can't be of much help here.
The only time I have just the option for the first field is if a schedule only has 2 fields in total - which is obviously not the case with your schedule.

Barry.