topic Re: Windows 7 in Collaboration with other software

Windows 7

KeesW — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 22:16:01 GMT

Has anybod tried running Archicad 12 on the beta release versin of Windows 7? If so, how did it go?

Re: Windows 7

ci-JoshOs — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:00:15 GMT

I tried it in a Windows 7 virtual Machine and it crashed VMware every time I tried to start ArchiCAD. The install went fine though.

Re: Windows 7

Karl Ottenstein — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:29:45 GMT

Henry,

You probably tried this since I see you have Vista 64 in your sig as your normal machine ... but I wonder if the WIBU driver might be the issue. The one on the GS web site is the 32 bit driver. There is a 64 bit driver here:
http://wibu.com/download_user.php
(towards the bottom of the page - 64 bit Windows for AMD or Intel chips)

?

Karl

Re: Windows 7

ci-JoshOs — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:37:48 GMT

i was using 64-bit win7 as well and the correct architecture driver should be installed by the AC-installer. Even if the wrong one was installed, at worst it should just not work, not actually crash the system.
I haven't had a chance to try fixing it yet though, So I'll let you know once i have some time to do so.

Re: Windows 7

Piotr Dobrowolski — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 10:09:29 GMT

I tried w7/64 and I could run AC 12 without problems, but I had to manually kill the application as it did not want to close.

When running AC on 64 bit os - the Wibu driver must be dowlnoaded from Wibu page.

Best Regards,
Piotr

Re: Windows 7

Anonymous — Fri, 20 Feb 2009 02:16:41 GMT

I have been running it on W7 for the last 3 weeks and no new problems whe compared with Vista SP1.

Re: Windows 7

Anonymous — Fri, 20 Feb 2009 17:11:17 GMT

On a lark, I downloaded Win 7 and installed it on a 7 year old HP 2.53 single processor with only one GB of mem and it has been running fine - no apparent problems. Opens files saved on my MAC without hesitation and is able to find lib parts etc as if it was an established OS. This from an avid MAC fan. The graphics are clear and the attribute manager is OK too. No difficulties with the WIBU key either.

It seems very strange to me that the program is as good as it is given my dislike of MS.

Re: Windows 7

Anonymous — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 09:41:11 GMT

Im having quite the trubble.. im using Win7 64bit build 7000 i can install Archicad12 educational however at vcredist_x86.exe windows comes up with a error and says it can install that component.. it finishes the install and gives me a installed version of archicad that only seems to start up once... or on the strange ocasion... the down side of this is that i built a hole project in it and now icant relaunch <_>

any advice?... i tryed installing the vcredist_x64.exe from microsoft doing the x86 now... any thing els i could be missing <_> really need this working ASAP

Re: Windows 7

Bricklyne Clarence — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 16:15:53 GMT

HeathKidd wrote:
Im having quite the trubble.. im using Win7 64bit build 7000 i can install Archicad12 educational however at vcredist_x86.exe windows comes up with a error and says it can install that component.. it finishes the install and gives me a installed version of archicad that only seems to start up once... or on the strange ocasion... the down side of this is that i built a hole project in it and now icant relaunch <_>

any advice?... i tryed installing the vcredist_x64.exe from microsoft doing the x86 now... any thing els i could be missing <_> really need this working ASAP

Have you tried excluding ArchiCAD from the Data Execution Prevetion (DEP) protocol of Windows Vista/7?

If you're not certain what this is then look up disabling DEP on Google; lots of people have problems with it, so lots of hits and solution threads should come up.

It's been known to cause problems with programs like ArchiCAD, and you might also have to exclude the install file (the ArchiCADE setup EXE) in order to have it all running fine.

Also, make sure you have the absolute most recent version of vcredist from Microsoft website. They update it frequently, and I would imagine that the did the same for Windows 7 as well ( chances are that if you've updated your Windows 7 via Windows update, then you vcredist is up to date; but it never hurts to make sure).

Lastly, as stable as Win7 has been/is relative to Vista, it's never a good idea to migrate your projects to a new OS that's strictly speaking still in Beta. You might have to go back to Vista/XP.

Re: Windows 7

Anonymous — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 22:47:25 GMT

so yer i compleatly disabled DEP and also tryed exemptions first.. still no luck with my VCredslists stopping at x86 every time....

i dont get a VCredlist folder in my install folder eather? is that normal some one mentioned if they failed to just run the x86 and x64 from the VCredlist in the main Archicad 12 folder... but yer i dont have that <_> i guess ill now go hunting for newer VCredlists...?...

Windows compontent install failed this is not a valid windows component blaa blaa... zzzzzzzzzzz <__> hope some one can help me

im going to try switching from the 185.20 to 181.71 windows7 beta drivers... does any one know a nice stable nvid driver for archicad... (i can install any vista drivers i thiink)..

microsoft only has 3 VCredist files up on its site.. x86 x64 and x86 SP1 going to get them all and try again.. hurrr

do i need the file structure of a VCredist folder in my main archicad folder for it to funtion right? or will i be ok with my install with out one ? as far as i can tell thats the only thing failing in the install but im starting to think its prob not the reason for the often launch up crashes and slow/unresponsive start... hurrrr

Re: Windows 7

ci-JoshOs — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 20:13:59 GMT

Sam thing here. ArchiCAD still works fine though, so I didn't worry about it. If you don't install the visual C++ redistrib on XP or Vista, ArchiCAD won't even start, so seeing as it works on 7, I assumed that it's already there.

Re: Windows 7

Anonymous — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 13:52:47 GMT

fixed my prob it was all a clash with a broken adobie Acrobat pro..

sorry for messing up the topic.

Re: Windows 7

ci-JoshOs — Tue, 05 May 2009 22:47:43 GMT

Just tried AC12 on the Windows 7 RC and everything still works fine.
Seems significantly faster than the beta too.

Re: Windows 7

Erika Epstein — Wed, 06 May 2009 00:34:56 GMT

Henry, do you know if you can go from XP direct to 7?

Re: Windows 7

ci-JoshOs — Wed, 06 May 2009 00:44:29 GMT

You can't in the RC and you won't be able to in the Final release either.
Upgrading is only supported from Vista.
I've never known an OS upgrade to go well(except in Linux), so I never do them myself. I usually reformat my Windows machines at least once very six months to clean out all the rubbish anyway.

Re: Windows 7

Erika Epstein — Wed, 06 May 2009 06:04:37 GMT

Thanks Henry. I'll have to query Dell at some point about whether this machine is up to the 7 OS change. It''s only a year old and I was told I could install Vista, but chose not to.

Re: Windows 7

Laszlo Nagy — Wed, 06 May 2009 19:27:41 GMT

Last week I read an article which said that there will be a killer feature in Windows 7: you can get Windows XP in it. It was something like that for an additional fee they give you Windows XP which will be able to run in Windows 7 or something like that.
So many people may upgrade to Windows 7 and then keep using Windows XP within it.

Re: Windows 7

Pete — Wed, 06 May 2009 19:51:07 GMT

That sounds like a great idea! Way to go Microsoft! Where do I bend ov... I mean sign up for this?

I sure glad that, after 24 years on PC, I switched to Mac.

Re: Windows 7

ci-JoshOs — Wed, 06 May 2009 23:05:46 GMT

So far as I know, the "XP Mode" is going to be a free download for Ultimate and Business versions.
I really don't see what you would want it for though.

Re: Windows 7

Laszlo Nagy — Thu, 07 May 2009 08:40:21 GMT

henrypootel wrote:
So far as I know, the "XP Mode" is going to be a free download for Ultimate and Business versions.
I really don't see what you would want it for though.

I give you an example: I could not install ArchiCAD 9 on Vista. However, there is a project we started in 2004 which we worked on in ArchiCAD 9. There were still modifications on it but it was not worth the effort to migrate it to 11 or 12. Also, Amyuni PDF driver does not work on Vista so you cant use in in AC 9 on Vista.
If this XP thing is true in Windows 7 then it is probable that previous versions of ArchiCAD will run well in that XP module. Which can be important to some (or many?) people.