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    <title>topic Re: ArchiCAD MEP announcement imminent? in Collaboration with other software</title>
    <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/ArchiCAD-MEP-announcement-imminent/m-p/188633#M22704</link>
    <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;TomWaltz wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;We've been told that it is since Archicad 11 came out in May 2007.&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

&lt;BR /&gt;
^^^^ ......what he said.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
We &lt;I&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;S&gt;&lt;I&gt;&lt;I&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/S&gt;WERE&lt;E&gt;&lt;/E&gt; supposed to be getting a free version of this so-called MEP thingie since almost 2 years ago; we're still waiting. In other words we'll believe it when we actually see it. &lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Graphisoft have unfortunately eked out for themselves this reputation for not really ever being forthright or forthcoming with new products' releases, new features or information pertaining to them (apart from the yearly /version updates which are also shrouded in ludicrous levels of secrecy), all of which stems from their recent inability to deliver on their own promises or pledged  products (see MEP module, Maxonform upgrades, Google Earth/Sketchup plugin, for Mac users till AC11, or any users in AC12); the end result of which they 'spring' these surprises on us whenever it suits them.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
I guess they believe it works in their favour if they can control and protect from public knowledge both the release dates, development cycles or even existence of such products and features by giving them the flexibility to shift back and forth when things don't quite work out as they expect.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Personally I think it's just bad baaad business practice. At least from a customer relations and PR standpoint. Keeping your clients and customers (who pay for your R&amp;amp;D funds through the licenses they purchase) in the complete dark about new products, development features and roadmaps only serves to seriously hurt you downstream as they end up choosing not to invest for the long-term in a product with an unclear development and features future and since you're really accountable to no one but yourselves; not even the people who indirectly pay your bills.</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 05:58:13 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Bricklyne Clarence</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-10-17T05:58:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>ArchiCAD MEP announcement imminent?</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/ArchiCAD-MEP-announcement-imminent/m-p/188631#M22702</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV class="actalk-migrated-content"&gt;&lt;R&gt;AECBytes review of AC12 includes the statement:
&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;...Graphisoft has been working on this front, and is set to release an MEP solution next week; it is also continuing to explore partnerships with structural BIM vendors.&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

See &lt;A href="http://www.aecbytes.com/review/2008/ArchiCAD12.html" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.aecbytes.com/review/2008/ArchiCAD12.html&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/R&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 21:39:14 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/ArchiCAD-MEP-announcement-imminent/m-p/188631#M22702</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-10-16T21:39:14Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD MEP announcement imminent?</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/ArchiCAD-MEP-announcement-imminent/m-p/188632#M22703</link>
      <description>We've been told that it is since Archicad 11 came out in May 2007.</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 22:44:09 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/ArchiCAD-MEP-announcement-imminent/m-p/188632#M22703</guid>
      <dc:creator>TomWaltz</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-10-16T22:44:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD MEP announcement imminent?</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/ArchiCAD-MEP-announcement-imminent/m-p/188633#M22704</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;TomWaltz wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;We've been told that it is since Archicad 11 came out in May 2007.&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

&lt;BR /&gt;
^^^^ ......what he said.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
We &lt;I&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;S&gt;&lt;I&gt;&lt;I&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/S&gt;WERE&lt;E&gt;&lt;/E&gt; supposed to be getting a free version of this so-called MEP thingie since almost 2 years ago; we're still waiting. In other words we'll believe it when we actually see it. &lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Graphisoft have unfortunately eked out for themselves this reputation for not really ever being forthright or forthcoming with new products' releases, new features or information pertaining to them (apart from the yearly /version updates which are also shrouded in ludicrous levels of secrecy), all of which stems from their recent inability to deliver on their own promises or pledged  products (see MEP module, Maxonform upgrades, Google Earth/Sketchup plugin, for Mac users till AC11, or any users in AC12); the end result of which they 'spring' these surprises on us whenever it suits them.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
I guess they believe it works in their favour if they can control and protect from public knowledge both the release dates, development cycles or even existence of such products and features by giving them the flexibility to shift back and forth when things don't quite work out as they expect.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Personally I think it's just bad baaad business practice. At least from a customer relations and PR standpoint. Keeping your clients and customers (who pay for your R&amp;amp;D funds through the licenses they purchase) in the complete dark about new products, development features and roadmaps only serves to seriously hurt you downstream as they end up choosing not to invest for the long-term in a product with an unclear development and features future and since you're really accountable to no one but yourselves; not even the people who indirectly pay your bills.</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 05:58:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/ArchiCAD-MEP-announcement-imminent/m-p/188633#M22704</guid>
      <dc:creator>Bricklyne Clarence</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-10-17T05:58:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD MEP announcement imminent?</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/ArchiCAD-MEP-announcement-imminent/m-p/188634#M22705</link>
      <description>shame on you graphisoft !!&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
ductwork, maxonform,....</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:52:18 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/ArchiCAD-MEP-announcement-imminent/m-p/188634#M22705</guid>
      <dc:creator>Rakela Raul</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-10-17T14:52:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD MEP announcement imminent?</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/ArchiCAD-MEP-announcement-imminent/m-p/188635#M22706</link>
      <description>Well, I was hoping this was a good news announcement that perhaps Khemlani knows something the rest of us haven't heard of till now: solid proof that AC MEP is coming very soon.  Like, before Christmas...&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
And Reviteers share your frustrations about not hearing where Revit is going.  We do have one bright spot within Autodesk who is really great at telling us general timeframes and where the product is headed -- he was the product manager for Revit MEP.  But now he's moving on to some other portfolio.  Sigh.  Such is progress!</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:33:07 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/ArchiCAD-MEP-announcement-imminent/m-p/188635#M22706</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-10-17T17:33:07Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD MEP announcement imminent?</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/ArchiCAD-MEP-announcement-imminent/m-p/188636#M22707</link>
      <description>Sounds like good news to me...guess we'll know next week!&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Karl</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:49:09 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/ArchiCAD-MEP-announcement-imminent/m-p/188636#M22707</guid>
      <dc:creator>Karl Ottenstein</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-10-17T17:49:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD MEP announcement imminent?</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/ArchiCAD-MEP-announcement-imminent/m-p/188637#M22708</link>
      <description>Specifics about the new MEP Modeler for ArchiCAD are in this new thread:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;A href="http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=25571" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;LINK_TEXT text="http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/vie ... hp?t=25571"&gt;http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=25571&lt;/LINK_TEXT&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Cheers,&lt;BR /&gt;
Karl</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:12:42 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/ArchiCAD-MEP-announcement-imminent/m-p/188637#M22708</guid>
      <dc:creator>Karl Ottenstein</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-10-18T22:12:42Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD MEP announcement imminent?</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/ArchiCAD-MEP-announcement-imminent/m-p/188638#M22709</link>
      <description>great info karl !!!!&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Hope its free for the disconnected ones</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:04:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Collaboration-with-other/ArchiCAD-MEP-announcement-imminent/m-p/188638#M22709</guid>
      <dc:creator>Rakela Raul</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-10-20T11:04:35Z</dc:date>
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