topic Re: mesh quantities not showing on schedule? in Collaboration with other software

help on creating a schedule for listing a specific matelial

Anonymous — Tue, 27 Aug 2013 16:01:19 GMT

hello,
i made a column footing with the mesh tool and applied the reinforced concrete material. this is not showing at the schedules quantities.
why that?
can i do something to fix it?
thanks , i apreciate any help

help on creating a schedule for listing a specific matelial

Anonymous — Tue, 27 Aug 2013 18:32:33 GMT

how can i create a schedule for listing "concrete" material for example?
i see that the " schedule" do not contin any mesh or morph objects . why that?
is there a way to add morph or mesh or obgects in the schedule settings and then the schedule calculate the materials of these objects?
thanks

Re: help on creating a schedule for listing a specific mater

Anonymous — Wed, 28 Aug 2013 08:58:49 GMT

is here someone from graphisot that can help?
or anyone to suggest where else to look for ?

Re: help on creating a schedule for listing a specific matel

Barry Kelly — Wed, 28 Aug 2013 09:30:17 GMT

This image should help.
Go into your schedule settings and have a play around.
Barry.

Re: mesh quantities not showing on schedule?

Laszlo Nagy — Wed, 28 Aug 2013 13:03:46 GMT

Is the Mesh solid? Or there is only a skirt with no bottom?
What are the criteria you set and what are the fields to be listed?
You should also put your ArchiCAD vesrion and specs in your signature.

Re: mesh quantities not showing on schedule?

Anonymous — Wed, 28 Aug 2013 17:56:41 GMT

hi,
thanks for the reply.
the mesh is solid and created in AC17.
i noticed that the component schedules do not have the mesh and the morph at the critiria but the ellement schedules include the morph and mesh.

but i cant schedule a material quantity as "element schedule" for example "concrete " material that is used in columns and composites and slabs.

how can i do it?

thanks again!!

Re: help on creating a schedule for listing a specific matel

Anonymous — Wed, 28 Aug 2013 18:11:19 GMT

hi,
thanks !!
i tried that and it works, but can i add materials for a composite structure to this listing? how?
i tried it with a beam and a complex profile with one of the sub elements " concrete reinforced" and i couldnt make it work.

Re: mesh quantities not showing on schedule?

Karl Ottenstein — Wed, 28 Aug 2013 18:17:52 GMT

Component Schedules only schedule composites and complex profiled elements ... those elements that have 'skins' (the components).

You would use an Element Schedule to schedule your mesh quantities. It sounds like you did not set up your criteria correctly. Should be 'mesh OR slab OR beam' etc to get all of the footing elements... enclosed in parentheses... and then choose the concrete material.

Repeating Laszlo's question - please post a screenshot of your schedule criteria. I'm relatively certain that the problem is your choice of settings there.

Re: mesh quantities not showing on schedule?

Anonymous — Wed, 28 Aug 2013 19:37:20 GMT

hi,
please see the attached image.
still the quantities inside a composite structure not listed.

Re: mesh quantities not showing on schedule?

Anonymous — Wed, 28 Aug 2013 19:49:07 GMT

it seems that i cannot have material listing inside a composite if the schedule is "element " type AND i cannot have morphs and meshes material listed if the schedule is" element.

i think the only way is to have two schedules ...
please someone see the pictures and help.
thanks

Re: mesh quantities not showing on schedule?

Laszlo Nagy — Wed, 28 Aug 2013 21:25:03 GMT

Yes, your conclusion is correct.
Component lists can be generated only for those element types where you can use Composites or Complex Profiles, therefore they have 'skins'.
I would suggest that you try to model those Column Bases using the Shell Tool. It is much more flexible than the Mesh Tool, you should be able to do it.
Then you will be able to create a Component Schedule for Shell elements as those can also have a Composite structure.

Re: mesh quantities not showing on schedule?

Karl Ottenstein — Wed, 28 Aug 2013 22:28:06 GMT

AchillesGr wrote:
hi,
please see the attached image.
still the quantities inside a composite structure not listed.

I'm confused: you changed your question. You first asked about meshes not showing up ... and the image you posted does not show that you included meshes in your schedule, so that's why they do not appear.

Now, you've asked about quantities inside of composites... and I answered that earlier: you only get composite skin quantities with a component schedule, not an element schedule.

ArchiCAD has no means to combine the data from component and element schedules, unfortunately. So, if you have a composite wall with a reinforced concrete 'skin' and a mesh that you used for an isolated footing with reinforced concrete ... there is no means to total the volume of the two.

Edit: sorry for any duplication of Laszlo's comments... I started replying and was called away. Maybe I still said something useful. 😉

Re: help on creating a schedule for listing a specific matel

Barry Kelly — Thu, 29 Aug 2013 02:43:44 GMT

You might need to create a new "Component" schedule rather than a "Construction Element" schedule.
Then you can list the values of the individual components in your composites.
Barry.

Re: help on creating a schedule for listing a specific matel

Karl Ottenstein — Thu, 29 Aug 2013 03:32:17 GMT

Achilles,

I'm merging your two threads before more people respond separately to the two, nearly identical questinos. Please try to post a question only once.

[For anyone trying to sort out the order of discussion, you'll see two different subject lines for earlier posts in this thread.]

Re: help on creating a schedule for listing a specific matel

Anonymous — Thu, 29 Aug 2013 05:49:21 GMT

guys,
thank you all for your time,
i will try the shell tool(i never used it before) i hope to find out how it works.
Karl, my mistake about posts. sory about that. i will keep it in mind