topic MaxonForm and SOlid Element Operations in Collaboration with other software

MaxonForm and SOlid Element Operations

Anonymous — Tue, 12 Feb 2008 11:04:07 GMT

I recently succumbed to the lure of MaxonForm in order to do some complex organic roofs. It's complex but sophisticated, and I'm impressed with the results so far.

But I find that I can't apply solid element operations to certain elements. For example, I took a slab into MF, deleted the top polygon surface, and bringing it back into AC it performs a Solid Element Operation (SE) fine. But if I also delete one of the vertical faces, the object no longer is capable of participating in an SEO.

I tried taking a solid slab into MF to apply twists and warps, but it's MUCH harder to control than a single plane.

So my questions are:

1. Am I missing something in the SEO behavior? Other objects can perform SEO's, and this one could without a top - am I missing something?

2. What's the best way to create an organically-curved curved roof with a thickness? Create a plane and extrude it? Start with an AC slab and warp it?

3. The roof in the further building still has a thickness (started life as a slab), but also won't work in a SEO. Are there overriding limitations here I should have been aware of before purchase?

Re: MaxonForm and SOlid Element Operations

Rakela Raul — Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:34:28 GMT

there is another mf tread that talk about that seo problem..

i run into the same seo problem but if i dont recall well it was cuz the two elements didnt have the same material applied to it.....i think !!

i have done it in mf in a different way: with bplines i have "formed" surfaces/planes using the loft or one of those tools and then extrude for the thickness.

but it seems that your roof doesnt need mf...profiler probably would do

Re: MaxonForm and SOlid Element Operations

Anonymous — Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:23:27 GMT

SEOs requite solid elements as operators (no real surprise I guess). Your alterations to the slab have probably turned it into a surface model with no normal vectors (ie. it doesn't know inside from out). The surprise for me is that it worked without the top.

BTW: It is natural that surface models are easier to deform than solids. The math and constraints are MUCH simpler.

Re: MaxonForm and SOlid Element Operations

stefan — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 11:04:10 GMT

In the past, I found that SEO's applied to MaxonForm objects had to be reapplied when the MaxonForm object was updated. Is this still the case?