topic Re: Balustrade with Archistair 2 in Collaboration with other software

Balustrade with Archistair 2

Achille Pavlidis — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 13:53:09 GMT

I want to make a Balustrade with a polyline to go along stairs and slabs, but i want it to be simple, with no posts, newels etc, just a wall with a tubular handrail on top.

See attached image.

Is it possible???

Re: Balustrade with Archistair 2

Anonymous — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 14:58:48 GMT

You could do it with profiled beams. You might have to use SEOs to get the joints right. (Of course there are also the usual add-ons.)

Re: Balustrade with Archistair 2

Fra — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 15:08:29 GMT

With ArchiStair 2 you can make a balustrade like in your image
(It's no perfect ..)

Fra

Re: Balustrade with Archistair 2

Achille Pavlidis — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 15:22:03 GMT

@Matthew: Thanks, but the point was to use Archistair.
@Fra: I know. The stair from the image i have posted is made with Archistair.
The problem is that the parapet wall is made with a gimmick... i used the stringers to make it.
Problem is that when you want to make a balustrade that goes on to several slabs and stairs, using a polyline there is not the option to use stringers. Just posts, rods and newels.

I was asking if it possible to create a balustrade made by a simple wall and handrail

Re: Balustrade with Archistair 2

TMA_80 — Mon, 08 Mar 2010 09:33:57 GMT

this option would be great not only in archistair but in stairmaker as well. the best thing would be to have a profiled wall attached to the stair (not only for straight stairs but also for curved and complex ones ).

Re: Balustrade with Archistair 2

Achille Pavlidis — Mon, 08 Mar 2010 10:04:40 GMT

...ok, so there isn't the possibility to do it with Archistair either...
thanks TMA_80.

Re: Balustrade with Archistair 2

Fabrizio Diodati — Mon, 08 Mar 2010 11:23:26 GMT

Hi Achille,

ok what I'm going to show you is just a workaround but at least it should work.
Create a new custom Handrail profile using two slab:
the first one circular (the real handrail)
the second one rectangular (the below panel)
save it and use it as custom handrail profile

the last tip: please choose as handrail head the horizontal option by leaving (as offset) just 1 cm.

Friendly
Fabrizio

Re: Balustrade with Archistair 2

Achille Pavlidis — Mon, 08 Mar 2010 15:24:33 GMT

Fabrizio, i couldn't create the custom balustrade as you suggested... i have created the two slabs as you suggested, but when i try to save (with the prefix HCP_ as says in the manual) i get the error message "Error loading file in Active libraries" see attached image.
Does it have anything to do with the fact that i'm creating the stair in a Teamwork shared project?

Re: Balustrade with Archistair 2

Fabrizio Diodati — Mon, 08 Mar 2010 15:36:33 GMT

Mmmm, so I suppose.
Where are you saving this element?
Could you try to save it inside the server library?

Otherwise we need to fix this issue (you cannot save anymore the object where you want... it's, from my humble point of view, a real boring feature of the new TW 2)...

Friendly
Fabrizio

Re: Balustrade with Archistair 2

Achille Pavlidis — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 09:01:06 GMT

I managed to save the custom balustrade to the server library...
but...
the result is disastrous... see attached image
what i'm doing wrong???

Re: Balustrade with Archistair 2

Achille Pavlidis — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:43:48 GMT

i would appreciate an answer to the reason why i'm not able to recreate what you did...
As you can see in the attached image, i tried to make a stair exactly like yours, but:
1) The parapet wall isn't well connected to the stair, and there are triangular dents
2) The parapet wall at the beginning of the stair is vertical to the stair slab, instead of the ground
3) The parapet wall extends for about 1 metre to the end...

Also another thing, when i open the custom balustrade, the default dimensions are 0.10x0.05, and the balustrade appears slightly deformed, but when i change the dimensions to the actual 0.10x1.00 the balustrade appears completely stretched.

Another question: when creating the slabs for the custom balustrade what is optimal slab thickness to use?

Re: Balustrade with Archistair 2

Achille Pavlidis — Wed, 07 Jul 2010 13:05:34 GMT

I'm replying to myself just to inform if someone is interested...

1) To solve this problem the custom handrail must be longer than the actual height to incorporate the stairs slab thickness

2) To solve this on creating the balustrade, you must select the second option for the end of the handrail (the one with the horizontal part) and set the length to 0

3) This problem has been addressed by Cigraph with the updated library.