topic Re: Change MAnager NEW NEW!!! in Collaboration with other software

Change MAnager NEW NEW!!!

Anonymous — Mon, 20 Feb 2006 20:20:38 GMT

oooo ooooo.... have I been the first to spot this!!!!

http://www.graphisoft.com/products/construction/products_and_services/change_manager/

Looks interesting pity it wasnt intergrated intoAC10 instaed of flogging it seperatly for £$600 or so....

Still nice to see GS arent sitting on their hands

Re: Change MAnager NEW NEW!!!

__archiben — Mon, 20 Feb 2006 21:59:11 GMT

Lennox wrote:
oooo ooooo.... have I been the first to spot this!!!

GSUK sent a mailshot about it a couple of months back. it's directed at the 'constructor' market.

Still nice to see GS arent sitting on their hand

it would be nicer still to see them sort out archiCAD's troubles and promote the virtual building process before they develop a single-platform DWG comparing tool. it is concerning to see the direction that the 'constructor' side of the business is taking archiCAD, it's core component.

~/archiben

Re: Change MAnager NEW NEW!!!

Djordje — Tue, 21 Feb 2006 03:14:52 GMT

~/archiben wrote:
GSUK sent a mailshot about it a couple of months back. it's directed at the 'constructor' market.

Yeah ... only contractors need to compare DWGs ...

Not.

Useful tool, no doubt!

Re: Change MAnager NEW NEW!!!

Thomas Holm — Tue, 21 Feb 2006 13:15:54 GMT

Is it possible to compare PDFs as well?

Re: Change MAnager NEW NEW!!!

Djordje — Tue, 21 Feb 2006 16:36:40 GMT

Thomas wrote:
Is it possible to compare PDFs as well?

Nope.

Re: Change MAnager NEW NEW!!!

TomWaltz — Tue, 21 Feb 2006 16:40:48 GMT

Lennox wrote:
oooo ooooo.... have I been the first to spot this!!!!

http://www.graphisoft.com/products/construction/products_and_services/change_manager/

Looks interesting pity it wasnt intergrated intoAC10 instaed of flogging it seperatly for £$600 or so....

Still nice to see GS arent sitting on their hands

Kind of a annoying that so much seems to be going into Constructor instead of Archicad though AND to pay so much for yet another add-on...

Re: Change MAnager NEW NEW!!!

Bence Kovacs — Tue, 21 Feb 2006 17:07:48 GMT

Dear all,

When we started our construction modeling service ca. a year ago, we quickly realized that the most exhilarating part of this business is to keep track of the changes in the documentation. While struggling with the incoming, ever-changing drawings, we thought „hey, this is so boring, why don’t we just put up a little tool to handle this? Aren’t we a software company after all...?” So we did, and slowly the „little tool” has grown up and became a full-fledged application. At the same time we realized that our pain is also a BIG pain for all construction companies. And for subcontractors. And for architects. And for mechanical engineers. And so on. So we decided to make it into a product.

Why DWG (first)? Because in the construction process this is where the pain the biggest and the most acute. But you can bet that this will be followed by other formats (PDF, TIFF, others) and eventually (although this will be much more complex endeavor) I can foresee us tackling the issue of comparing models. But first things first... for the time being it will be a powerful tool for everybody (including of course architects!) who have to compare, manage and interpret incoming 2D drawings. So from now on your engineer should be more cautious what to send to you..!

Bence Kovács
Vice President
ArchiCAD Product Management

Re: Change MAnager NEW NEW!!!

TomWaltz — Tue, 21 Feb 2006 17:17:13 GMT

I confess.... I'd be more excited if
A) There were a Mac version
B) It wasn't so expensive

Re: Change MAnager NEW NEW!!!

Anonymous — Tue, 21 Feb 2006 18:49:29 GMT

Bence wrote:
Dear all,

Why DWG (first)? ............. (including of course architects!) who have to compare, manage and interpret incoming 2D drawings. So from now on your engineer should be more cautious what to send to you..!

Bence Kovács
Vice President
ArchiCAD Product Management

Well, First Option Manager and Now Change Manager, what is next ArchiCad; NOT on Mac platform

Why DWG and no Mac?
Why Architects on Windows and No Architects or Engineers on Mac?
Any answers?
Joseph

Re: Change MAnager NEW NEW!!!

Anonymous — Wed, 22 Feb 2006 01:13:52 GMT

GS is betting all on Constructor. This is what result from a review of the financials.
http://www.portfolio.hu/en/cikkek.tdp?cCheck=1&k=1&i=7249
http://www.portfolio.hu/tozsde/infopanel.tdp?cCheck=1&rv=GRAPHI
Click on English

GS is approx. 40% owned by insiders. This makes them less likely to listen to the investors or us.

Archicad is not growing, Constructor is. The Constructor marker is tiny but with a brisk growth for 2005. GS is taking a gamble. If Constructor proves to be a money-producing asset for construction companies then it will be adopted fast. It may prove to be a wise move or it could marginalize the company or, it could wreck the development of the design-oriented effort.

The stock at the moment is high.

Re: Change MAnager NEW NEW!!!

Bence Kovacs — Wed, 22 Feb 2006 09:00:13 GMT

To the „why not a Mac version?” issue:
Change Manager (from its conception) has been targeted to construction companies (it is another question that it may be useful for others, as well…). And we have to face it: this is (not just overwhelmingly but I would say exclusively) a Windows-world...

But for the architectural market we are and will remain multi-platform!

Bence Kovács
Vice President
ArchiCAD Product Management

Re: Change MAnager NEW NEW!!!

__archiben — Wed, 22 Feb 2006 09:35:32 GMT

Adalbert wrote:
GS is betting all on Constructor.

true . . .

Adalbert wrote:
Archicad is not growing, Constructor is.

. . . but the thing is, adalbert, constructor is archiCAD (mainly), just used differently. (no really, take a thorough look: you will be shocked to the core)

Bence wrote:
When we started our construction modeling service ca. a year ago...

(the emphasis is mine)

. . . so tell me: if archiCAD is the main component of the 'constructor' platform; and if the archiCAD in the constructor platform is used in a way that advocates the approximation of design so long as the take-off is correct; and if the main user-group of this constructor are graphisoft themselves . . . where does that leave the future development of archiCAD functionality for the "architectural market"?

Adalbert wrote:
... it could wreck the development of the design-oriented effort.

exactly. so long and thanks for coming . . . we hope you enjoyed the last twenty years.

Re: Change MAnager NEW NEW!!!

Rakela Raul — Wed, 22 Feb 2006 17:24:22 GMT

what bence said about change manager it is 100% true.

i have this problem every day with our construction department and it is durn difficult to keep up with it...but if anybody would need it the most in our organization is our contractor to coodinate changes orders with their subs.

i dont see our GC's using archicad and this addon unless we do it for them.

Re: Change MAnager NEW NEW!!!

TomWaltz — Wed, 22 Feb 2006 21:32:38 GMT

Bence wrote:
To the „why not a Mac version?” issue:
Change Manager (from its conception) has been targeted to construction companies (it is another question that it may be useful for others, as well…). And we have to face it: this is (not just overwhelmingly but I would say exclusively) a Windows-world...

But for the architectural market we are and will remain multi-platform!

Bence Kovács
Vice President
ArchiCAD Product Management

To paraphrase:
And we have to face it: this is (not just overwhelmingly but I would say exclusively) an AutoCAD-world...

Why is it that companies like Maxon and Nemetshek can deliver all products for both platforms but Graphisoft cannot?

Re: Change MAnager NEW NEW!!!

Anonymous — Wed, 22 Feb 2006 22:14:44 GMT

TomWaltz wrote:
Why is it that companies like Maxon and Nemetshek can deliver all products for both platforms but Graphisoft cannot?

Is not THE Finances or could it be other reasons?

Just to know:
"AXON, January 30, 2006 - Just days after the first new iMacs with Intel Core Duo processors have begun shipping,"

Joseph

Re: Change MAnager NEW NEW!!!

Rakela Raul — Thu, 23 Feb 2006 14:37:04 GMT

not that it matters but i downloaded the addon, i installed it and it is bigger and more involving than i though, all this to try it 5 times ??
i dont think so, thx anyway

Re: Change MAnager NEW NEW!!!

Djordje — Fri, 24 Feb 2006 08:47:26 GMT

Bence wrote:
Change Manager (from its conception) has been targeted to construction companies (it is another question that it may be useful for others, as well…).

If I didn't have to compare various HVAC and other services DWGs for at least a couple of hours daily, I would agree ...

Re: Change MAnager NEW NEW!!!

Anonymous — Sat, 25 Mar 2006 13:34:11 GMT

hmmm....if it has been targeted at the construction industry...will it be able to read microstation.....