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3DS in conversion error AC15

Anonymous — Wed, 07 Nov 2012 06:25:04 GMT

Hi all, I originally posted this in the data exchange section and got no replies, so I'm trying again here...

I'm having trouble converting 3ds objects to GDL using the 3D STUDIO IN add-on. The converter is not bringing in any data, all it does to a converted object is create hotspots, otherwise the object is empty.
I used this tool about 6 months ago and it worked fine so I went back to that project file to try again with the same 3ds object i used back then and this time the conversion no longer works. The only thing that has changed since then and now is I've installed a hotfix or two.
I've reinstalled the 3D STUDIO IN add-on and reinstalled AC15 hotfix #4 but it's still not working.
I'm not sure what my archicad build number was the last time i successfully used the converter, but I would like to try it out on older builds, perhaps hotfix #3, is there a way to uninstall hotfixes or rollback to a previous build (reinstalling from disc is not an option at the moment)?

Thanks, Nick
Running AC15 AUS, latest build

Re: 3DS in conversion error AC15

Anonymous — Wed, 07 Nov 2012 12:48:55 GMT

Hello,

Finnish version of the 3D Studio importer plugin has been buggy for
years and does not work properly.

The reason is that the generated 3D code has uncommented comment lines,
ie. missing bang (!) from the beginning of these lines.

By opening the generated object and finding/replacing the missing bangs
this is quite easily fixed. If you post or PM the converted object I can check
if this is the case with INT version importer too.

Hope this helps.

Re: 3DS in conversion error AC15

Anonymous — Thu, 08 Nov 2012 03:19:30 GMT

Hi Juha,

Thanks for the response. I tried to attach one of the offending objects but the forum won't allow me to upload a .gsm file...I'll try to pm it to you instead. It's a tree object created using OnyxTree, saved as a .3ds then converted to GDL in Archicad. There's a good chance that the source of the problem lies in the fact the .3ds file is created with 3rd party software, however it worked just fine a few months ago using the same process but on a different AC15 build. I don't have Autodesk 3D Studio in order to try the conversion with a native .3ds file...

Anyway I went through the script of the generated GDL object and there just doesn't appear to be any data for the model... have a look and see what you think.

Thanks again,
Nick

Re: 3DS in conversion error AC15

Anonymous — Thu, 08 Nov 2012 03:30:18 GMT

Oh...there's no function for attaching a file in a PM

..so I thought I would attached a txt file with the scripts....nope, can't do that either...what exactly CAN I attach to this post?!

Re: 3DS in conversion error AC15

rocorona — Thu, 08 Nov 2012 06:48:18 GMT

images, and any ZIPped file

Re: 3DS in conversion error AC15

Anonymous — Fri, 09 Nov 2012 03:00:02 GMT

aha! thanks!

zip attached if anyone would like to take a look at the generated script

Re: 3DS in conversion error AC15

Anonymous — Fri, 09 Nov 2012 07:55:00 GMT

Hello Nick,

I checked the object and there seems to be some other reason
for missing 3D than uncommented comments as I suggested.

In the beginning of the 3D script the number of polygons is counted,
but they are not created



!Created from file:"Acer platanoides y2.3ds"
!Number of meshes:1
!Number of faces :8552
!Applied textures:1

....


!Really listed polygons:0

Could you post or PM the original 3ds file?

Re: 3DS in conversion error AC15

Anonymous — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 02:36:04 GMT

strange....

well here's the original .3ds file

Re: 3DS in conversion error AC15

Barry Kelly — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 03:35:47 GMT

No problem for me in 15 or 16.

Did you maybe install the add-on after applying a hotfix?
Maybe re-install the hotfix, or better still there is a new one for 15 released just the other day (but it doesn't show in the updates).
You can get it from here.

http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=40958

This will update all installed add-ons distributed by Graphisoft.

Barry.

Re: 3DS in conversion error AC15

Barry Kelly — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 03:51:33 GMT

Barry wrote:
Did you maybe install the add-on after applying a hotfix?

I should have read your original post again.
But I would try this latest hotfix.
Barry.

Re: 3DS in conversion error AC15

Anonymous — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 10:44:40 GMT

Hello Nick,

For your information, 3DS-importer FIN version converts very
nicely the 3DS file you posted.

Re: 3DS in conversion error AC15

Anonymous — Tue, 13 Nov 2012 03:02:57 GMT

so clearly there's no problem with .3ds file itself if you could convert it in the FIN version.... so what am I doing wrong?!

I installed the new hotfix also, still no luck. Barry, I assume your AC version is AUS? And yours works, so it's not an AUS release issue... I don't get it.

Barry, have you tried a conversion on the latest AC15 build?

Re: 3DS in conversion error AC15

Barry Kelly — Tue, 13 Nov 2012 03:13:50 GMT

Yep, Aus version -latest build 4038.
Do you see this dialogue when you convert?
Does it show the same number of points and faces?
Barry.

Re: 3DS in conversion error AC15

Anonymous — Tue, 13 Nov 2012 03:18:41 GMT

yep, same number for both

Re: 3DS in conversion error AC15

Anonymous — Tue, 13 Nov 2012 03:20:00 GMT

...and the object actually has data in it? there's a 3d model and a 2d symbol?

Re: 3DS in conversion error AC15

Barry Kelly — Tue, 13 Nov 2012 05:23:54 GMT

Nick00R wrote:
...and the object actually has data in it? there's a 3d model and a 2d symbol?

Sure does - just as in the image Juha showed earlier.
Can't attach the file because it is too large.
Barry.

Re: 3DS in conversion error AC15

Anonymous — Wed, 28 Nov 2012 02:54:57 GMT

...and now I can't bring in a .skp file either. conversion completes but the resulting object has errors in both the 2d and 3d scripts.... what's wrong with my archicad!!!??