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Calculate surface area of a composite wall skin

Steve Jepson — Wed, 06 Nov 2013 23:23:39 GMT

Is there a setting I can choose for showing the surface area of a composite wall skin on the outside face of it?

Re: Calculate surface area of a composite wall skin

Anonymous — Thu, 07 Nov 2013 02:49:23 GMT

Steve

If you use a component schedule you can use the Conditional Surface options.
Am actually using it at the moment myself!

Re: Calculate surface area of a composite wall skin

Steve Jepson — Thu, 07 Nov 2013 03:01:17 GMT

There are two conditioned surface options. One for inside and one for outside.

I am wanting the surface area of a skin in a composite which will be less than the outside surface and more than the inside surface.

Re: Calculate surface area of a composite wall skin

Steve Jepson — Thu, 07 Nov 2013 03:35:57 GMT

What exactly does conditioned and conditional mean in the Available Parameters for Walls ?

Does it me per the conditions of the Filters above ?

Re: Calculate surface area of a composite wall skin

Anonymous — Thu, 07 Nov 2013 03:50:59 GMT

The conditional options remove any openings in that wall.
The inside and outside options replace the reference line and opposite ref options.
In that building material what surface are you chasing mate?

Re: Calculate surface area of a composite wall skin

Anonymous — Thu, 07 Nov 2013 03:53:21 GMT

Oh and the criteria/filter area means that is purely what that schedule is looking at.

Re: Calculate surface area of a composite wall skin

Anonymous — Thu, 07 Nov 2013 03:59:57 GMT

I've just seen that even when the criteria is just for a certian building material, it returns the surface area for the complete wall.

Re: Calculate surface area of a composite wall skin

Steve Jepson — Thu, 07 Nov 2013 04:08:37 GMT

The surface area of the Mortar Bed material will be the surface area of the 2.5-lbs Galvanized Diamond mesh/lath.

I change the name of that quantity in the schedule.

I am exporting these schedules to Excel where that same surface area is used in a formula to derive the number of special fasteners for the lath.

What I have done is just made another wall as thin as possible and I am using it to find the surface area I need. Not great but it can be done quicker than figuring out how to get the surface area of a composite skin into the schedule.

I would think finding the surface area of a composite skin would be easy. I am almost certain I have done it many times before. I just can't remember.

Re: Calculate surface area of a composite wall skin

Anonymous — Thu, 07 Nov 2013 04:34:51 GMT

Ahhhh now I see.
I tend to use volumes of building materials and also schedule heights and thickness so I can apply the math functions in excel.
This way I can use one schedule for multiple take-offs.

The thin wall is a quick solution though.

Re: Calculate surface area of a composite wall skin

Steve Jepson — Thu, 07 Nov 2013 04:40:31 GMT

I need to know if an Interactive Schedule can show the surface area of a component skin or not.

If not, I will probably model all of the component skins separately for the sake of the schedules.

This is not a typical project. It is strictly for producing a material list for the wainscot (manufactured stone) only of a rather simple building.

The architect requires Masonry shop drawings anyway so I thought I might just as well draw it up with ArchiCAD and generate the necessary material lists all at the same time.

As always, it is all due yesterday. I have 12 hours to finish it.

It will look something like this but with seven schedules for the items they want in the schedules.

Re: Calculate surface area of a composite wall skin

Anonymous — Thu, 07 Nov 2013 12:22:16 GMT

Steve,

till now I did not found a way to show the Surface for Wall skins in Schedules (Volumes yes).
You can export the schedule in Excel and there ADD a field to calculate the SURFACE from the skins Volume. Save the .xls as .pdf and then import that .pdf schedule in AC as External Drawing.

Re: Calculate surface area of a composite wall skin

Anonymous — Thu, 07 Nov 2013 12:37:38 GMT

Final result - .pdf Schedule with Skin Surfaces on Layout:

Re: Calculate surface area of a composite wall skin

Steve Jepson — Thu, 07 Nov 2013 13:06:51 GMT

Thanks Andro55