topic Re: Wall surface areas in Collaboration with other software

Wall surface areas

Anonymous — Mon, 04 Oct 2010 20:22:47 GMT

Hi, does anyone know if the wall surface area in a schedule adapts when I either trim it to a roof or cut it with a SEO?

Cheers

Re: Wall surface areas

Anonymous — Tue, 05 Oct 2010 22:41:30 GMT

No for both. Scheduled area is of the unaltered wall. (At least for AC12 - 14).

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Re: Wall surface areas

Link — Wed, 06 Oct 2010 01:07:49 GMT

It's supposed to work, but the schedule may be a little buggy in updating.

So you might have to include a wall change or extra wall to force the change in the schedule. Then undo it and open the schedule again.

You can also get this info out of the Element Information palette.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Wall surface areas

Anonymous — Wed, 06 Oct 2010 02:35:02 GMT

Link,

I've tried these wall changes: location, length, material, rotation. I also
saved the file and reopened. No schedule update occurs. Suggestions?

Test set up is three identical walls, one roof trimmed, one SEO'd, one unaltered.
Looking in 3D window confirms trim and SEO.

Element Info Palette has same behavior, no SF change.

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Re: Wall surface areas

Karl Ottenstein — Wed, 06 Oct 2010 04:13:02 GMT

Yes for both. I'm not sure what Snap might be doing wrong - unless this is a Windows vs Mac issue, but see attached screenshot... Everything updates instantly.

Karl

PS My reference and opposite sides show differing areas ... I forgot to hold the shift key when I quickly created my roof pivot line for this test, so the slightly rotated roof accounts for the differing trims for the opposite surfaces.

Re: Wall surface areas

Link — Wed, 06 Oct 2010 04:32:58 GMT

Not sure what's going on there. We have almost identical specs.

The Element Information palette should always be up to date, you got the appropriate content displaying?

I've found that the schedule will require a change in the walls that changes something in the schedule, to make it update correctly.

Another apparent shortcoming I have here is that the SEO wall does not list it's correct minimum height.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Wall surface areas

Karl Ottenstein — Wed, 06 Oct 2010 16:52:05 GMT

Hi Link,

The wall height is a different issue (and bug IMHO). This bug affects columns trimmed with SEO too - perhaps more. I've been meaning to report the column thing (you know!), but have been traveling. Discovered while modeling a shed down to the stud level in order to generate my cut list - and finding that it was impossible.

Surface areas seem fine though, right?

Cheers,
Karl

Re: Wall surface areas

Link — Wed, 06 Oct 2010 23:29:12 GMT

Karl wrote:
Hi Link,

The wall height is a different issue (and bug IMHO). This bug affects columns trimmed with SEO too - perhaps more. I've been meaning to report the column thing (you know!), but have been traveling. Discovered while modeling a shed down to the stud level in order to generate my cut list - and finding that it was impossible.

Surface areas seem fine though, right?

Cheers,
Karl

Yes - the areas are perfect. I even manually checked them with an area fill over the elevation. All good.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Wall surface areas

Anonymous — Thu, 07 Oct 2010 15:40:18 GMT

Careless mistake on my part.

I applied "wall area" not "wall surface area"

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