topic Re: IFC Space Occupant in Collaboration with other software

IFC Space Occupant

Michael — Thu, 16 Oct 2014 21:08:39 GMT

Has anyone one defined this, "IFC Space Occupant" in an IFC table and care to share where the input value is inserted ?

Having multiple seats at a table it may be possible to utilize this category such that the "head count" is hard wired to number of seats, not to the one (1) composite object within a room…..

Other options welcomed too...

Re: IFC Space Occupant

Laszlo Nagy — Fri, 17 Oct 2014 14:33:20 GMT

Does this clip help with the IFC Space Occupant question?:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCISvzl5tYE

Also, here is the Help page about these Assignment types:

http://helpcenter.graphisoft.com/guides/archicad-18-int-reference-guide/interoperability/file-handling-and-exchange/working-with-ifc/working-with-ifc-data/creating-and-editing-ifc-data/#1079840

You posted in the Schedule Forum. Do you want to use this for IFC export or for a Schedule?

Re: IFC Space Occupant

Michael — Mon, 27 Oct 2014 19:48:15 GMT

The clip you posted helped, and suggest this is not the direction to proceed.

Really not trying to export an IFC, just trying to use a powerful database to make the simple use of onboard calculations in ArchiCAD.

No user friendly formula found yet.
Thanks for the linkage.

Re: IFC Space Occupant

Laszlo Nagy — Mon, 27 Oct 2014 20:01:08 GMT

Try to give an exact specification of what you need, such as what value you need exactly where and then we may be able to offer a way to achieve it.
At the moment it is not clear to me what it is exactly that you would like to achieve.

Re: IFC Space Occupant

Michael — Tue, 28 Oct 2014 01:59:41 GMT

The table in the sketch above has 18 chairs.

A simple element report will indicate there is one object within a defined zone.
That is fine, however this object is comprised of 19 elements:

1 table &
18 chairs

I am attempting to make a report/interactive that enumerates
1 table &
18 chairs and not just
the one object

All 19 elements have three dimensional para-metrics.
Thanks for assisting !

Re: IFC Space Occupant

Barry Kelly — Tue, 28 Oct 2014 02:16:24 GMT

If the number of chairs is a parameter in the object then in your schedule settings you could use the "add parameter" button to add that field.

If the chairs just appear based on the length of the table then that won't work unless you edit the GDL script to make a parameter that shows the number of chairs.

Barry.

Re: IFC Space Occupant

Michael — Mon, 03 Nov 2014 21:20:49 GMT

If the chairs just appear based on the length of the table then that won't work unless you edit the GDL script to make a parameter that shows the number of chairs.

Barry.

What is the degree of difficulty to add this GDL script to a couple of dozen or more objects ?

Thanks for the previous answers !

Re: IFC Space Occupant

Barry Kelly — Tue, 04 Nov 2014 02:12:14 GMT

Michael wrote:
What is the degree of difficulty to add this GDL script to a couple of dozen or more objects ?

It is hard to say without seeing the object(s) involved.
Is the table a standard Graphisoft library part?
If so tell me what it is called and I will have a look at the script.

Barry.

Re: IFC Space Occupant

Michael — Tue, 04 Nov 2014 02:51:46 GMT

Is the table a standard Graphisoft library part?
If so tell me what it is called and I will have a look at the script.

Yes.
Office Layout Linear 18

Actually, any of the objects within the "furniture layout 18" office related objects would be applicable.

Thank you !

Re: IFC Space Occupant

Barry Kelly — Tue, 04 Nov 2014 04:59:30 GMT

It seems the parameters for chair numbers are in the objects in the "Furniture layouts" section - it is just they don't all have the same parameter name in each object which makes things difficult to schedule.

But here you can see what I did for the 3 "Office" objects.
These do all have the same parameter for chair numbers.

Barry.

Re: IFC Space Occupant

Barry Kelly — Tue, 04 Nov 2014 05:03:57 GMT

This is the resulting schedule.

Barry.

Re: IFC Space Occupant

Barry Kelly — Tue, 04 Nov 2014 05:09:23 GMT

However there is a problem I can't work out (bug?) in that the chair numbers don't change if you drag the object on the plan to adjust it - i.e. office layout linear 18.
You must open the object settings and adjust the number of chairs rather than simply stretch it on plan.

Barry.

Re: IFC Space Occupant

Barry Kelly — Tue, 04 Nov 2014 05:14:22 GMT

I think it is because the Parameter script is not run if you stretch the object in plan but it is when you open the settings dialogue.
The calculations for the number of chairs/desks is done in the parameter script of theses objects.

Barry.

Re: IFC Space Occupant

Michael — Wed, 12 Nov 2014 14:33:59 GMT

Thank you Barry … I have been away from the forum awhile….
Will let you know how I fare.

Your "Desk_count" looks very straight forward

Re: IFC Space Occupant

Michael — Wed, 12 Nov 2014 15:59:37 GMT

Thanks on the heads up on the "stretching"

This "number of the chairs" field is the ticket…
I could not find it, so I must not have been looking in the right resource.

Appreciate all the screenshots !