topic Re: Why was OLE dropped? in Collaboration with other software

Why was OLE dropped?

Haneef Tayob — Mon, 20 Nov 2006 11:19:03 GMT

Anyone know of reasons why OLE functionality was dropped in ArchiCad10?

OLE allowed one to have live links to other files such as documents and spreadsheets placed in Archicad/plotmaker. The workarounds have been covered in other posts, but I'm still wondering why it was dropped.

Re: Why was OLE dropped?

David Larrew — Mon, 20 Nov 2006 22:50:59 GMT

Only GS can answer that. They have yet to give me an acceptable reason.

Re: Why was OLE dropped?

Rob — Tue, 21 Nov 2006 00:54:04 GMT

I can see Apple conspiracy behind this

Re: Why was OLE dropped?

Greg Kmethy — Tue, 21 Nov 2006 14:34:06 GMT

We always tried to implement functionalities that work on both PC and Mac platform. In the past OLE was supposed to be cross-platform, but Microsoft dropped Mac support. We dropped OLE in favor of PDF - we could not afford to support both, so the question was OLE or PDF. We thought PDF was the better option.

Re: Why was OLE dropped?

Rob — Wed, 22 Nov 2006 00:22:51 GMT

could we dropped Mac in favor of OLE ??
just joking....

Re: Why was OLE dropped?

Djordje — Wed, 22 Nov 2006 04:21:36 GMT

Rob wrote:
could we dropped Mac in favor of OLE ??
just joking....

Especially as it now runs Windows ...

Re: Why was OLE dropped?

__archiben — Wed, 22 Nov 2006 04:35:28 GMT

Rob wrote:
could we dropped Mac in favor of OLE ??
just joking....

Djordje wrote:
Especially as it now runs Windows ...

easy fellas . . . don't make me come over there . . .

Re: Why was OLE dropped?

Link — Wed, 22 Nov 2006 05:50:34 GMT

Rob wrote:
could we dropped Mac in favor of OLE ??
just joking....

A rare laugh-out-loud ArchiCAD-Talk moment!

Good one.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Why was OLE dropped?

TomWaltz — Wed, 22 Nov 2006 12:25:32 GMT

Rob wrote:
could we dropped Mac in favor of OLE ??
just joking....

Could drop Windows too, making one less Microsoft technology to support

Re: Why was OLE dropped?

Anonymous — Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:54:36 GMT

OK, back to the discussion...

I tried to post this earlier but the website went down (or something) when I tried to submit it.

gkmethy wrote:
We always tried to implement functionalities that work on both PC and Mac platform. In the past OLE was supposed to be cross-platform, but Microsoft dropped Mac support. We dropped OLE in favor of PDF - we could not afford to support both, so the question was OLE or PDF. We thought PDF was the better option.

I find myself in agreement with this since it was always a frustration for my Mac clients to have no reasonable workaround for placing Word docs into the layouts, and PDF will work with all programs. It is unfortunate to lose the direct file link though. Would it be that hard to read the Word files directly? Many other programs do it and there must be some open source code out there for this. (OpenOffice?)

Re: Why was OLE dropped?

Djordje — Fri, 24 Nov 2006 11:16:33 GMT

Commercially very viable, comparing the number fo Windows licenses to Mac licenses (sorry, Ben ... facts.)

Maybe not OLE, but SOMETHING that reads LIVE Word and Excel documents. Mac OS and Windows both.

Re: Why was OLE dropped?

Anonymous — Wed, 29 Nov 2006 04:16:34 GMT

Now what about the

ALL-NEW-ALL-SINGING-ALL-DANCING

.xml file type?

Maybe ArchiCAD can be even smarter than allowing live files to be updated.....

(or so the snake-oil salesman would have you believe....)!