topic Re: Publishing 3D view markup entries in Collaboration with other software

Publishing 3D view markup entries

Paul King — Thu, 06 Sep 2018 06:51:39 GMT

I have overlaid our ArchiCAD model with a structural engineers and hydraulic engineers model (converted to morphs from IFC files supplied then pasted into ArchiCAD, due to overwhelming differences in story heights, home stories for elements etc in the respective IFCs)

I have gone around the resulting model and used the markup tool from the 3D window (via a selection of markup tool 'attached views' from saved views that I set up with custom cutting planes) and highlighted a lot of clashes and items of concern. I have also identified more in section typesaved views

When I go to publish this information, I see that I can't publish the 3D views to DWF format, which would seem to make it impossible for project reviewer to work.

I presume this is due to the 3D views not being 2D line based

Without resorting to manually making hundreds of 3D document views (one for each clash) , how do I include the markup tool attached views in a publisher set intended for review by project reviewer?

Re: Publishing 3D view markup entries

Karl Griffith — Thu, 06 Sep 2018 11:35:22 GMT

Look into exporting to BCF https://helpcenter.graphisoft.com/user-guide/74568/

I have not done this, but it looks like it will do what you want.

I do have engineers coordinate stories so all files are the same and ifcs can be shared and used. Getting them to do this can take some time, but it is worth the effort.

Re: Publishing 3D view markup entries

Paul King — Thu, 06 Sep 2018 12:22:30 GMT

THanks Karl.

I agree that would be best - but I have been roped into an already well advanced modelling documentation process done by others, at the last minute, and where there has been no apparent awareness or interest in these things from anybody else involved - even the firm I am contracting to.
It is also very hard to convince engineers here in NZ to cooperate with more than cursory BIM model collaboration: they seem to think A) we should be working in Revit like them, and B) they are not being paid for proactive coordination, and that coordination is somehow all the architects responsibility, and unless we convince the client/project manager to pay engineers extra for their time, they will make no accomodation for architects in the way they work internally - which request would be political suicide for the architect.

Stone age mentalities in action!

Re: Publishing 3D view markup entries

Karl Griffith — Thu, 06 Sep 2018 17:58:24 GMT

Understood - I am fortunate that my client engineering firm has a BIM Manager who is interested in learning how to work between Revit and ArchiCAD.

Relative to your problem, what I do is just take screen shots and paste them in an email (or multiple emails). Mark ups could also be done by exporting to ifc and marking up in Tekla BIMsight (free) or similar software. If the engineers were willing they could import the markup ups and review on the model with BIMsight, but I'm sure they would not be willing (I never got that far either).

Like there in NZ here in USA (or at least New York State), everyone thinks that if they are using Revit, they are doing BIM. But odds are, they are not.