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Hotlinked Element:Expression cannot be evaluated

Anonymous — Tue, 23 Feb 2021 11:57:10 GMT

Hello All,
I wish and hope that you are well and healthy!

I wanted to create some schedules based on objects. I have created Expression based properties.
They output only if objects are native and not hotlinked.
AC outputs schedules of hotlinked elements but does not output values of these expression which are referring to hotlinks. Please see the uploaded image.
Is there any alternate?
Kindly replay ASAP.
Thanks in advance.
Regards,

Re: Hotlinked Element:Expression cannot be evaluated

Laszlo Nagy — Tue, 23 Feb 2021 19:20:01 GMT

Would you do a short experiment so we can see if the Hotlinked Module is indeed the source of the problem?:

1. Save the Project File, then save a copy of the Project File using "File > Save As".
2. In this copy, break the Hotlink that contains those Zone and elements, effectively incorporating its contents into the Project File.
3. See if the Expression is now properly evaluated.

Another question is, are these Hotlinked Modules nested, so there are Hotlinked Modules within the Hotlinked Modules? (That may or may not be relevant.)

Please let me know the results.

Re: Hotlinked Element:Expression cannot be evaluated

Anonymous — Thu, 25 Feb 2021 07:55:15 GMT

Hello LaszloNagy,
Did experiment which you suggested.

Please go through attached image.
The expression based property works after breaking the hotlink.

Shouldn't be so.
Kindly provide solution.

Regards

Re: Hotlinked Element:Expression cannot be evaluated

Laszlo Nagy — Fri, 26 Feb 2021 00:35:58 GMT

Unfortunately, I cannot provide a solution because this may be a bug. As you stated, when the element is in the host file, the Expression returns a value, when the element is in the hotlinked module, the Expression does not return a value.
So, all I can do right now is report it to GRAPHISOFT as a possible bug.,

Re: Hotlinked Element:Expression cannot be evaluated

Laszlo Nagy — Fri, 26 Feb 2021 00:38:52 GMT

Actually, I was thinking something else: does the Property return a correct value (is it correctly evaluated) when you use it in a Label?
And does it return a correct value when you use it in a Schedule?

Re: Hotlinked Element:Expression cannot be evaluated

Anonymous — Tue, 02 Mar 2021 08:06:23 GMT

LaszloNagy,

It doesn't return anything in a schedule.

This is an important feature in calculations so please report.

Thanks,

Re: Hotlinked Element:Expression cannot be evaluated

Laszlo Nagy — Tue, 02 Mar 2021 08:22:03 GMT

Yes, I did report it.
You can also report it through your local reseller.

Re: Hotlinked Element:Expression cannot be evaluated

Minh Nguyen — Wed, 03 Mar 2021 13:46:08 GMT

Hello,

Thank you very much for the question!

I tried to reproduce the issue from scratch using the latest update (4018) for Archicad 24 INT. Same as you, I can see that the expression cannot be evaluated if it is placed in a module. But, the expression does work with labels and schedules, as can be seen in the screenshots attached below.

This makes me wonder: does the Evaluate function work for you in previous Archicad versions?
Looking forward to hearing from you!
Best regards,
Minh

Re: Hotlinked Element:Expression cannot be evaluated

Anonymous — Sun, 18 Apr 2021 13:53:34 GMT

Minh Nguyen,
I was expecting that Graphisoft would rectify the bug after reading these posts.
But when I checked the function today I realized that the problem exists.
Now I have Ver 24 Build 5000.
Is it necessary to report through my reseller?
Narendra
18/04/2021

Re: Hotlinked Element:Expression cannot be evaluated

Barry Kelly — Mon, 19 Apr 2021 00:35:25 GMT

Narendra wrote:
Is it necessary to report through my reseller?

It certainly helps.
It can give the problem a little more importance when it comes from multiple sources.
Even more so if it comes from multiple users.
What is that old saying - "The squeaky door gets the oil".

Barry.

Re: Hotlinked Element:Expression cannot be evaluated

Minh Nguyen — Mon, 19 Apr 2021 13:18:35 GMT

Dear Narendra,

Thank you very much for your comment!

Unfortunately, as I mentioned previously, the expression cannot be evaluated if it is placed in a module. The Evaluation function also gives you this notice, if you look at the screenshot in my previous answer. I believe this is a limitation with the Evaluation function, as it works more like a preview to test the function.

I am very sorry for the inconvenience! I highly suggest reporting this through your local reseller in order to ask for higher priority.

Best regards,
Minh

Re: Hotlinked Element:Expression cannot be evaluated

Andreas _kerlund — Fri, 13 Aug 2021 07:20:40 GMT

Hi!

Saddly I can report that the problem still exist in Archicad 25. In autotext labels as well as in schedules.
We had the same problem in AC23. It makes me sad when bugs don´t get fixed over several versions....

Re: Hotlinked Element:Expression cannot be evaluated

Minh Nguyen — Mon, 23 Aug 2021 13:37:04 GMT

Hi Andreas,

Thank you very much for your comment!

Previously, I did some experiments with a custom expression, and the result is that the expression works well in labels and schedules. May I ask for the expression you are using that does not work in labels/schedules for in-house reproduction?

Looking forward to hearing from you!
Best regards,
MInh

Re: Hotlinked Element:Expression cannot be evaluated

CaticonC — Mon, 04 Jul 2022 13:50:02 GMT

Hi, i have the same problem, i need to create schedules from zone properties that are made based on expressions, and the schedules don't give me data. I hope Graphisoft solves rthis problem. Working on Archicad 24

Re: Hotlinked Element:Expression cannot be evaluated

Laszlo Nagy — Thu, 07 Jul 2022 05:30:41 GMT

Can you show a screenshot of the Property Manager Dialog that shows the Expression defined for the Zone, and another screenshot that shows what happens in the Schedule?