topic Re: Attribute Manager - Composites for Walls - wont purge in Collaboration with other software

Attribute Manager - Composites for Walls - wont purge

tsturm — Thu, 25 Feb 2021 22:44:03 GMT

I have a table that is set up to find walls and show their composites and the ID they are set to. It would appear I have found and IDd all the walls; element, composite or complex profiled. Yet, the Attribute manager still thinks there are some composites that are being used. I cannot find these walls.

I have looked in the favorites section. Noting set for Favorites. I dont want to delete them just in case some wall in the file REALLY is using them. I have turned on ALL layers.

I am lost as to where these WALLs are being used. Suggestions please.

Re: Attribute Manager - Composites for Walls - wont purge

Barry Kelly — Fri, 26 Feb 2021 01:29:28 GMT

tsturm wrote:
I am lost as to where these WALLs are being used. Suggestions please.

If you are sure there are no walls placed in the model and no favourites using that composite, it could be the default setting of the wall tool itself.
The default setting of all of the modelling tools will show as a used attribute in the Attribute Manager.

Barry.

Re: Attribute Manager - Composites for Walls - wont purge

Laszlo Nagy — Fri, 26 Feb 2021 15:58:48 GMT

Also, Composite Structures may be used by Slabs, Roofs, and Shells as well.
Complex Profiles may be used by Columns and Beams as well.
So you should check the settings dialogs of these tools as well.

Re: Attribute Manager - Composites for Walls - wont purge

tsturm — Thu, 04 Mar 2021 14:57:32 GMT

To continue to develop this issue,

I am including a screen shot of the attribute manager for the composites.
Note the wall composites I am trying to purge are all walls. Not being also used as slabs or sloped inclines.

None of the walls are showing up in my element table.

How do I go about finding where AC thinks these are being used? There are no Favorites in this project.

Re: Attribute Manager - Composites for Walls - wont purge

Karl Ottenstein — Thu, 04 Mar 2021 17:16:33 GMT

The checkmarks mean that those composites are indeed in use.

You can display all layers, all renovation status etc in 3D and then use Find & Select to find elements using those composites. I imagine if you find one, you will see where all of the others are in use.

You can look at each individual tool (with nothing selected!) as Laszlo and Barry stated and see if the composites are in use with the current (now default) settings.

Your idea of checking hotlinks is also a good one. Delete all of the hotlinks in a copy of your file and see if the attributes are still in use. If the checks are gone...then open each hotlink individually as a standalone file to sort it out. Hotlinked modules do bring along any attributes inside of them... so you probably have to delete these attributes in each module first anyway. (Attribute management = coordination with hotlinked modules requires careful attention as we are all still wishing for a shared attribute functionality.)

If you created any of your own library parts (or someone else did) by saving walls, slabs etc etc that might have used composites... and that part is placed in the project, the composite will show as in use. Finding it will be very challenging.