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Library Part Name in Archicad Window/Door Schedule

reidweber — Wed, 08 Jul 2020 19:56:18 GMT

Is there any option out there for displaying the Library Part Name differently on a window schedule? Currently you see something like 'W Casement 22'. which doesn't provide the clearest/simplest form of information which is that it's a Casement Window. It can be confusing for contractors. I looked in the "add fields" categories under 'Schemes' in the schedule and can't find any field that simplifies the windows name. What are the options if any that still keep the "smart" qualities of the file (i.e. no needing to manually type in each window type)? If no options are available, it'd be nice for Archicad to provide a simpler name to their Library parts so we can just use those as is.

Thanks in advance.

Re: Library Part Name in Archicad Window/Door Schedule

poco2013 — Thu, 09 Jul 2020 02:37:47 GMT

I suppose you could use a expression to "intercept" the library Part Name using the General property and write the new wording to a property created to hold such changes, if it was one you wanted to change.

Re: Library Part Name in Archicad Window/Door Schedule

reidweber — Thu, 09 Jul 2020 16:57:54 GMT

Thanks for the reply poco2013, where can I enter an expression under the General property?

Re: Library Part Name in Archicad Window/Door Schedule

poco2013 — Thu, 09 Jul 2020 19:32:43 GMT

If you create an expression within the "Property Manager" Under the available Properties, will be a folder titled General Properties. Within it will be a property labeled"Library Part Name' which will return the name of any library Part.

Before you do that, you should review the Graphisoft help section on Expressions (property Manager) to get the procedure right. I believe there may also be some videos on this in YouTube.

Re: Library Part Name in Archicad Window/Door Schedule

reidweber — Thu, 09 Jul 2020 19:35:01 GMT

Okay thank you, that'll help get me on track.

Re: Library Part Name in Archicad Window/Door Schedule

Laszlo Nagy — Mon, 13 Jul 2020 12:31:48 GMT

The following image shows how you can do this.
What the following expression does is find the position in the default "Library Part Name" string where the version number (in our case "23") start, takes 2 positions before that (which is where the library part name ends), and takes only the LEFT part of the string that ends at that position. This way you can strip the space and the version number from the end of the Library Part Name.

LEFT ( {Property:General Parameters/Library Part Name}, FIND ( "23", {Property:General Parameters/Library Part Name}, 1 ) - 2 )

Re: Library Part Name in Archicad Window/Door Schedule

reidweber — Mon, 13 Jul 2020 16:26:47 GMT

Hello Laszlo, thank you for the reply.

I've added that expression into the expression editor after I created a new property. It tried matching your settings exactly based upon your screenshot ( I am in A22, so I changed the number to 22 instead of 23). For some reason it is not changing the 'Library Part Name" parameter in the window schedule. Is there another step I'm missing? I've tried it with all of the "Classifications" ("All, None, Custom") in the lower right under Property Manager dialogue box. Also, tried going through most of Archicad's videos on this topic and they're all very high level and pretty basic. Any help or references would be much appreciated.

Re: Library Part Name in Archicad Window/Door Schedule

runxel — Mon, 13 Jul 2020 17:01:39 GMT

Did you update the IA to have your new expression listed?

Re: Library Part Name in Archicad Window/Door Schedule

reidweber — Mon, 13 Jul 2020 17:09:52 GMT

What does IA stand for?

Re: Library Part Name in Archicad Window/Door Schedule

Laszlo Nagy — Mon, 13 Jul 2020 17:28:12 GMT

IA = Inter Active? (Schedule?)

You need to schedule the "Window Test" Property, the original "Library Part Name" Property will return the same value.
Also, the "Window Test" Property is available to "None". Make it available for "Window" Classifications, like on my screenshot.

Re: Library Part Name in Archicad Window/Door Schedule

reidweber — Mon, 13 Jul 2020 18:05:59 GMT

Thanks for helping. I've made sure the Property Manager, "Window Test" is applied to windows and doors like your screen shot. I've also double checked the 'fields' under 'scheme settings' on the schedule and made sure the Library Part Name is picked out. Still now results and not sure why. Also I'm sure the window schedule is updated, I'm clicking in that view and it should be live.

Re: Library Part Name in Archicad Window/Door Schedule

Laszlo Nagy — Mon, 13 Jul 2020 19:14:25 GMT

What I am saying is that you should pick the "Window Test" Property to be scheduled, and not "Library Part Name" Property. The "Window Test" Property contains the value you need.
After it is scheduled, you will be able to modify its Header Name to something more descriptive.

Re: Library Part Name in Archicad Window/Door Schedule

reidweber — Mon, 13 Jul 2020 20:30:58 GMT

Ah, that's the part I was missing, I understand now and that worked. Thanks!

Re: Library Part Name in Archicad Window/Door Schedule

runxel — Tue, 14 Jul 2020 10:18:55 GMT

Thanks for sorting it out guys 😉
Was mean't to type in "IS" as in Interactive Schedule, of course.

Re: Library Part Name in Archicad Window/Door Schedule

reidweber — Wed, 23 Sep 2020 16:41:27 GMT

Hello again, I'd like to revive a part of this original post.

For the window naming, is it also possible to remove the first letter and number in the schedule (e.g. 'W1 Casement' or 'W3 Slider')? Again, for contractors it's not clear what the W or W1 means. I'm not sure if the logic formula you sent can allow for that since it's based upon the location of letters and because it is at the beginning of the Library Part name. Any help would be appreciated.

Thank you

Re: Library Part Name in Archicad Window/Door Schedule

Laszlo Nagy — Wed, 23 Sep 2020 21:42:39 GMT

This can be done as well. The solution I will show checks whether the first two characters of Library Part Name is "W1", "W2", or "W3". If this condition is true, the program finds the first SPACE character in the Library Part Name and takes only its part that follows the SPACE and returns that. If the condition is not met, then it will return the Library Part Name.

Library Part Name - Short =

IF ( OR ( LEFT ( {Property:PRODUCT INFO/Library Part Name}, 2 ) = "W1", LEFT ( {Property:PRODUCT INFO/Library Part Name}, 2 ) = "W2", LEFT ( {Property:PRODUCT INFO/Library Part Name}, 2 ) = "W3" ), SPLITRIGHT ( {Property:PRODUCT INFO/Library Part Name}, " ", 2 ), {Property:PRODUCT INFO/Library Part Name} )

Then you can use this Property in the other Expression that trims the version number off its end:

Library Part Name - Short2 =

LEFT ( {Property:PRODUCT INFO/Library Part Name - Short}, FIND ( "22", {Property:PRODUCT INFO/Library Part Name - Short}, 1 ) - 2 )

You can see the result of the two expressions in the "Library Part Name - Short" and "Library Part Name - Short2" rows, respectively, of the generated Schedule:

Re: Library Part Name in Archicad Window/Door Schedule

reidweber — Wed, 07 Oct 2020 17:43:24 GMT

Thank you Laszlo, I've tried adding that second part to the schedule naming and am having troubles. Any way you can pinpoint what the issue is from the images below? I'm starting with just the renaming of the W's expression. I'll get to the total expression next. I'm learning how to do this so any novice things that I might be missing may be the problem.

Re: Library Part Name in Archicad Window/Door Schedule

runxel — Wed, 07 Oct 2020 20:10:51 GMT

Your windows don't start with "W{digit}", but with "W" only. That's why the expression doesn't do anything.
You can leave out the "OR" condition and break it down to a
'IF( LEFT(name, 1) = "W", SPLITRIGHT( ' ....
etc.

Re: Library Part Name in Archicad Window/Door Schedule

Laszlo Nagy — Sat, 10 Oct 2020 21:05:11 GMT

What Runxel said. The above-given Expression checks whether the first 2 characters of the Library Part Name is "W1", "W2", or "W3", and if it is it removes it, and the SPACE after it.

IF ( OR ( LEFT ( {Property:PRODUCT INFO/Library Part Name}, 2 ) = "W1", LEFT ( {Property:PRODUCT INFO/Library Part Name}, 2 ) = "W2", LEFT ( {Property:PRODUCT INFO/Library Part Name}, 2 ) = "W3" ), SPLITRIGHT ( {Property:PRODUCT INFO/Library Part Name}, " ", 2 ), {Property:PRODUCT INFO/Library Part Name} )

If you have a Library Part Name which starts with "W", then the Expression must be extended to process those Library Part Names as well, (by checking whether the first character of the Library Part Name is "W"), like this:

IF ( OR ( LEFT ( {Property:PRODUCT INFO/Library Part Name}, 1 ) = "W", LEFT ( {Property:PRODUCT INFO/Library Part Name}, 2 ) = "W1", LEFT ( {Property:PRODUCT INFO/Library Part Name}, 2 ) = "W2", LEFT ( {Property:PRODUCT INFO/Library Part Name}, 2 ) = "W3" ), SPLITRIGHT ( {Property:PRODUCT INFO/Library Part Name}, " ", 2 ), {Property:PRODUCT INFO/Library Part Name} )

Re: Library Part Name in Archicad Window/Door Schedule

Steve Jepson — Fri, 26 Feb 2021 16:24:41 GMT

reidweber wrote:
Is there any option out there for displaying the Library Part Name differently on a window schedule?....

Very simple. Select the window you want to have a different name. Open it, Ctlr+Shift+O, change the name to whatever you want. Closing the dialog box will prompt you to Save. That's it. -- But, while you are at it, you may want to correct the Subtype which is probably Corner Window by default. You might also want to change the Author to your name instead of GRAPHISOFT for the sake of organization. As with saving any object, it will by default be the selection ready for you to place. Now in your Interactive Schedules, the new name of the window can be displayed how you like it. The window with the new name will be in your Embedded Library. To see if it is there, you may want to have the window tool selected, then look for it. Otherwise, you will have to look for it another way because it won't show up. The original window of course remains as it was in the original library.

While on the subject of changing Library Part names, you may find it useful at some time to have all of the library parts available individually, rather than only available by loading an entire .lfc. The way you do this is to save the project file as a .pla, then when you open it, select the option to "Extract elements to a folder". Now you will have all the library parts available as individual files rather than only via an.lfc The reasons you may find that useful on occasion is a different conversation.