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Expressions as IFS values doesn't work for me

Mats_Knutsson — Mon, 19 Apr 2021 20:24:08 GMT

Hi,

This is an edited post. I managed to go incognito at work and have been reading up on expressions and I'm close to where I want.

I can't seem to use a property as a Value in an IFS (IF Multiple) statement. Is this true?

Regards,
Mats

Re: Expressions as IFS values doesn't work for me

Laszlo Nagy — Fri, 23 Apr 2021 22:26:50 GMT

I tried this and it did not work for me either.
Then I realized that if "A" is a Property available for all Classifications, then A1, A2, and A3 also need to be available for all Classifications (since the value of A depends on all of them).
When I made this change, it worked for me.

(I hope this will work. However, in my example, I set A1, A2, and A3 to specific numeric values (1, 2, 3) so they were not Expression-defined properties as they are in your example.)

Re: Expressions as IFS values doesn't work for me

Mats_Knutsson — Sun, 25 Apr 2021 18:35:06 GMT

It a word mix up. I'm after the value in the IFS...I want the IFS-value to read a property defined as an expression.

IFS (Logical1, Value1, [Logical2, Value2]...)

Great session you had about CW last friday Lazlo!

Re: Expressions as IFS values doesn't work for me

Laszlo Nagy — Sun, 25 Apr 2021 19:40:25 GMT

Mats_Knutsson wrote:
Great session you had about CW last Friday Laszlo!

Thanks. I hope people found it useful.

It a word mix-up. I'm after the value in the IFS...I want the IFS-value to read a property defined as an expression.

Could you explain this a bit more? I do not understand now what you are trying to achieve.

Re: Expressions as IFS values doesn't work for me

Mats_Knutsson — Sun, 25 Apr 2021 20:36:22 GMT

In my first image the properties A1 to A3 are expressions.
When I want to use A1-A3 as value in the IFS statement I get the error.

Re: Expressions as IFS values doesn't work for me

Laszlo Nagy — Sun, 25 Apr 2021 21:04:09 GMT

Can you show some screenshots that show the expressions you used to define A1, A2, and A3?
Also, are A1, A2, and A3 made available to the "Window" Classification?

Re: Expressions as IFS values doesn't work for me

marian_sdraila — Mon, 02 Aug 2021 07:06:49 GMT

I'm trying to do exactly the same thing and it doesn't work for me either!

In my case, I have a ceiling modeled out of multiple element types and I'm trying to get the surface area of all the different elements in the same schedule column.

The expression looks like this:

IFS ( Element Type = "Curtain Wall", Surface Area including Boundary , Element Type = "Roof", Net Surface Area of the Bottom , Element Type = "Shell", Net Surface Area of the Opposite to Reference Side , Element Type = "Slab", Bottom Surface Area , Element Type = "Wall", Net Surface Area on the Outside Face )

All those different element types have the same classification!

Re: Expressions as IFS values doesn't work for me

poco2013 — Mon, 02 Aug 2021 11:08:24 GMT

I believe that within a Expression, if any parameter used is not applicable to the element it is applied to, that expression will fail. it does not matter, if the the logic can never reach that part of the expression.

Use a Sequence(s) instead?

Re: Expressions as IFS values doesn't work for me

marian_sdraila — Wed, 04 Aug 2021 06:05:21 GMT

Tanks for the reply!

That makes the IFS function quite limited and in my case useless!

What do you mean by sequence?

Re: Expressions as IFS values doesn't work for me

poco2013 — Wed, 04 Aug 2021 12:29:59 GMT

Within the Expression edit dialog is the sequence dialog in which you can put in multiple expressions which are independent of each other. There, just add a IF statement for each element type ( NOT IFS) using the ADD button for each new expression.

The program will work down through the various expression statements and ignore any that are not applicable to the element type the property is attached to. When it finds one that works ,with that element, it will execute that expression and return its value. It then stops at the first expression that works. This is called a sequence.

EDIT: note that in some cases you don't even need the if statements, if the returned parameter for each element is only applicable to that element. In that case just list the properties in the sequence box and the program will pick the right one.

Multiple IF in a sequence may cause a conflict when both the true and false parameters are applicable to two or more elements, the program will just use the first one. In that case the above is best.

Re: Expressions as IFS values doesn't work for me

marian_sdraila — Thu, 05 Aug 2021 06:47:51 GMT

Oh man, it was so easy, I had no ideea you can do that! And you were right, the IF function was not needed at all!
Thanks a lot!