topic Re: OBJECTS SIZE IS NOT EDITABLE IN SCHEDULES/ ELEMENTS SCHEME in ARCHICAD 21, in Collaboration with other software

OBJECTS SIZE IS NOT EDITABLE IN SCHEDULES/ ELEMENTS SCHEME in ARCHICAD 21,

levonarsh — Mon, 05 Feb 2018 06:21:02 GMT

In previous versions it was not a problem to edit all dimensions of the objects in schedules/ elements scheme . In Archicad 21, I tried to change the height of an object, ( as I have done it all the time in previous versions ) but it is not editable now, while the other 2 sizes are still editable. I need this option very often. Why is it changed, or it is simply a bug ?

Re: OBJECTS SIZE IS NOT EDITABLE IN SCHEDULES/ ELEMENTS SCHEME in ARCHICAD 21,

Laszlo Nagy — Mon, 05 Feb 2018 18:48:48 GMT

It is hard to tell without actually seeing the Object's script. But my guess is that the Object is not scripted properly. I just checked a default ARCHICAD Library Part, like the Armchair, and all 3 main parameters (Width, Length, Height) can be edited in the schedule.

Re: OBJECTS SIZE IS NOT EDITABLE IN SCHEDULES/ ELEMENTS SCHEME in ARCHICAD 21,

levonarsh — Tue, 06 Feb 2018 07:35:40 GMT

But when I saved the file to version 20, I could edit it in ArchiCad 20. It is ArchiCAD 21 issue. The objects are imported from Sketchup.

Re: OBJECTS SIZE IS NOT EDITABLE IN SCHEDULES/ ELEMENTS SCHEME in ARCHICAD 21,

Laszlo Nagy — Tue, 06 Feb 2018 14:11:07 GMT

Could you upload the AC20 and AC21 versions of the file in a ZIP file so I could take a look at it?
Or put on Dropbox or similar if it is too large.

Re: OBJECTS SIZE IS NOT EDITABLE IN SCHEDULES/ ELEMENTS SCHEME in ARCHICAD 21,

levonarsh — Tue, 06 Feb 2018 17:50:42 GMT

Yes of course. Thank you for attention.

Re: OBJECTS SIZE IS NOT EDITABLE IN SCHEDULES/ ELEMENTS SCHEME in ARCHICAD 21,

levonarsh — Tue, 06 Feb 2018 17:53:29 GMT

Here is the link
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1bZc44L0opOxkIovUaAPuZy9hqU6ROTiD?usp=sharing

Re: OBJECTS SIZE IS NOT EDITABLE IN SCHEDULES/ ELEMENTS SCHEME in ARCHICAD 21,

Laszlo Nagy — Tue, 13 Feb 2018 02:28:16 GMT

Hi,
I looked at the files today and found that its is probably a bug, probably there is a bug in how the parameters affecting the height of the object are generated during the SketchUp file import.
I have looked at both the AC20 file and the AC21 file, and what is curious is that the bug appears in both cases in the generated GDL objects. However, only AC21 responds to this by not allowing you to edit the Height value in the schedule. I don't know if AC21 is not as forgiving or the schedule is not working properly, this is something for the developers to figure out.
In any case, I will report this to GRAPHISOFT.

Re: OBJECTS SIZE IS NOT EDITABLE IN SCHEDULES/ ELEMENTS SCHEME in ARCHICAD 21,

levonarsh — Tue, 13 Feb 2018 15:37:08 GMT

Thank you. I hope they will solve this.

Re: OBJECTS SIZE IS NOT EDITABLE IN SCHEDULES/ ELEMENTS SCHEME in ARCHICAD 21,

Laszlo Nagy — Sat, 24 Feb 2018 12:56:43 GMT

I got into contact with the guys at GRAPHISOFT and they called my attention to something.
I attach 2 screenshots.
If I use AC20 to import a SketchUp file, the resulting GDL Object will have the parameters you see on the first screenshot.
However, the GDL Objects you have problems with have the parameters you see on the second screenshot.
These parameter are very different so their conclusion is that these GDL Objects were not created by importing SketchUp files.
Is it possible they were created or brought into ARCHICAD in some other way?

Re: OBJECTS SIZE IS NOT EDITABLE IN SCHEDULES/ ELEMENTS SCHEME in ARCHICAD 21,

levonarsh — Thu, 01 Mar 2018 12:12:22 GMT

This objects are imported into Archicad 11 via Graphisoft sketchup file importer ( which was discarded later). Then I have opened AC11 pla file in AC 21.

Re: OBJECTS SIZE IS NOT EDITABLE IN SCHEDULES/ ELEMENTS SCHEME in ARCHICAD 21,

levonarsh — Thu, 01 Mar 2018 12:14:35 GMT

Thank you for comments. I'll try to open AC11 file in AC 20,first, save, and then open in AC21.

Re: OBJECTS SIZE IS NOT EDITABLE IN SCHEDULES/ ELEMENTS SCHEME in ARCHICAD 21,

Laszlo Nagy — Thu, 01 Mar 2018 19:44:42 GMT

If you have access to the original SKP files, you should probably import those in AC21, that would probably be the most straightforward. Of course, if you do not have access to them, you need to try those other options.

Re: OBJECTS SIZE IS NOT EDITABLE IN SCHEDULES/ ELEMENTS SCHEME in ARCHICAD 21,

levonarsh — Mon, 05 Mar 2018 00:34:42 GMT

The problem is, that, when importing into AC 21 the SU scene comes as a one whole GDL object, while importing in old way with SU add on into AC 11, I get from each component a separate correct gdl object with it's right name and layer. This is very important for my job.