topic Re: MEP sloped Pipework disappearing on plan in Collaboration with other software

MEP sloped Pipework disappearing on plan

Eli Chiasson — Thu, 06 Apr 2017 14:13:48 GMT

I have some pipework that disappears on plan when the end elevation is set past a certain height below slab.

My floor plan cut plane is set to show 3 stories below, offset by -5000 mm. The pipe is set to show on all stories. Renovation filters are not affecting it.

In 3D if I raise the end elevation of the pipe as shown in the attached screenshots, it appears in plan. When I lower the end of the pipe below a certain elevation, it disappears on plan, but can still be selected and still shows the end grips as seen in the attached screenshot.

Re: MEP sloped Pipework disappearing on plan

Eli Chiasson — Thu, 06 Apr 2017 14:17:37 GMT

I don't seem to be able to attach 2 images to the same post, so here is a 3D view for clarity.

Eli wrote:
I have some pipework that disappears on plan when the end elevation is set past a certain height below slab.

My floor plan cut plane is set to show 3 stories below, offset by -5000 mm. The pipe is set to show on all stories. Renovation filters are not affecting it.

In 3D if I raise the end elevation of the pipe as shown in the attached screenshots, it appears in plan. When I lower the end of the pipe below a certain elevation, it disappears on plan, but can still be selected and still shows the end grips as seen in the attached screenshot.

Re: MEP sloped Pipework disappearing on plan

Eli Chiasson — Thu, 06 Apr 2017 14:59:44 GMT

The attached image perhaps shows it more clearly.

Re: MEP sloped Pipework disappearing on plan

gpowless — Fri, 07 Apr 2017 11:12:25 GMT

There are a lot of issues with MEP and it seems one of those things that has dropped off Graphisoft's radar. Disappearing sloping pipes/ducts is just one of many things that doesn't work right.

I find that ducts and pipes jump stories disappearing sometimes on 1 or 2 stories away from their origins. Using All Stories or One storey Up/Down seems to compound the issue. Changing duct or pipe specific visual properties wipes out the system they belong to and sets them "undefined". I could go into a lot of it but suffice to say that despite Graphisoft's move to 3D working & documentation shift MEP isn't it.

Re: MEP sloped Pipework disappearing on plan

Eli Chiasson — Fri, 07 Apr 2017 11:14:32 GMT

Yes, these are some of the issues I've encountered as I begin our first project producing MEP documentation in house, based on a 3D model.

gpowless wrote:
There are a lot of issues with MEP and it seems one of those things that has dropped off Graphisoft's radar. Disappearing sloping pipes/ducts is just one of many things that doesn't work right.

I find that ducts and pipes jump stories disappearing sometimes on 1 or 2 stories away from their origins. Using All Stories or One storey Up/Down seems to compound the issue. Changing duct or pipe specific visual properties wipes out the system they belong to and sets them "undefined". I could go into a lot of it but suffice to say that despite Graphisoft's move to 3D working & documentation shift MEP isn't it.

Re: MEP sloped Pipework disappearing on plan

alemanda — Sun, 20 Aug 2017 07:23:34 GMT

I'm new in MEP modeler world ...
what about setting the display as symbolic instead of all relevant stories?
In this way I solved some issue

Re: MEP sloped Pipework disappearing on plan

Eli Chiasson — Mon, 21 Aug 2017 13:57:08 GMT

alemanda wrote:
what about setting the display as symbolic instead of all relevant stories?

I'm not sure I understand. The pipe object does not have a symbolic display option.

In my experience even if I set the pipe to display on All Stories, it is not visible on any story. I can select it, but the object does not show.

Re: MEP sloped Pipework disappearing on plan

alemanda — Mon, 21 Aug 2017 14:03:08 GMT

you have symbolic view.
CTRL+T to open settings of your pipe part.
See "all parameters"
Go to "2D representation" and enable the symbolic view.

Re: MEP sloped Pipework disappearing on plan

Eli Chiasson — Tue, 29 Aug 2017 11:33:58 GMT

alemanda wrote:
you have symbolic view.
CTRL+T to open settings of your pipe part.
See "all parameters"
Go to "2D representation" and enable the symbolic view.

Ah, thank you!