topic Re: IFC Export to Revit Structures in Collaboration with other software

IFC Export to Revit Structures

Anonymous — Wed, 26 Jul 2006 21:51:08 GMT

Has anyone had any experience with structural consultants using Revit Structures and the experience exporting the model data to that platform?

I realize that Graphisoft probably doesnt want to mention a competitors platform on this site but I am trying to help a structural consultant make a decision on the right software to serve their practice with clients that use both ArchiCAD and Revit.

Gary Bley

Re: IFC Export to Revit Structures

Anonymous — Wed, 09 Aug 2006 22:28:37 GMT

A good article for your structural software consultant

http://aec.cadalyst.com/aec/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=312438

I am also looking for a structural software and I am inclined to use RISA the full package, including 3d, floor frame, concrete, base plate, footing, masonry and wood. It is approx $5,000

Note:
This is geting so simple that if Architects keep refusing to design structures will soon be delicenced from this aspect of the practice.

Re: IFC Export to Revit Structures

Djordje — Fri, 11 Aug 2006 09:32:56 GMT

gbley wrote:
Has anyone had any experience with structural consultants using Revit Structures and the experience exporting the model data to that platform?

I realize that Graphisoft probably doesnt want to mention a competitors platform on this site but I am trying to help a structural consultant make a decision on the right software to serve their practice with clients that use both ArchiCAD and Revit.

Gary Bley

You have a rather well discussed real life exchange on this Forum:

http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=7698

In general, all the connection to the structural software is done via IFC.

http://www.graphisoft.com/products/archicad/solutions/structural.html

Re: IFC Export to Revit Structures

Anonymous — Fri, 11 Aug 2006 22:48:06 GMT

I have learned more:
http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?id=5523749&siteID=123112

run the interactive overview

In fact what Revit structure does it defines and an analytical model so one can then use an external engineering tool (Risa Etabs etc). Without this the model is just a lifeless thing, no loads and forces. When defining the analytical model one makes changes to the physical one.

Question: is Archicad capable of this?

Re: IFC Export to Revit Structures

Anonymous — Fri, 11 Aug 2006 23:12:23 GMT

Djordje,
I have just learned that Revit Structures 3 supports IFC import. This is a change from the older thread you directed me to. The question is what flavor, 2x2? I don't really care what application the engineer uses to run analysis. What I care about is the ability of Revit Structures 3 to import and contribute to the structural system of the BIM so that I can re-import that portion of the model.

Does anybody know what version of IFC Revit Structures is now supporting??

Gary Bley

Re: IFC Export to Revit Structures

Djordje — Sat, 12 Aug 2006 15:49:02 GMT

gbley wrote:
Does anybody know what version of IFC Revit Structures is now supporting??

I don't unless I check 😉 Anyway I know that it is lower than Archicad's.

Re: IFC Export to Revit Structures

Scott Davis — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 21:08:07 GMT

Djordje wrote:
gbley wrote:
Does anybody know what version of IFC Revit Structures is now supporting??
I don't unless I check 😉 Anyway I know that it is lower than Archicad's.

Revit Building is IFC 2x2 certified. Revit Structures is 2x, I think. I would expect Revit Building, Structures, and maybe systems to be 2x3 certified at next release (Spring 2007) 2x3 was released Spring 2006. I'm not sure if any product to this point is IFC 2x3 certified, as even ArchiCAD uses 2x2 to interface with other programs.

Re: IFC Export to Revit Structures

Anonymous — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 23:25:11 GMT

Thanks Scott.
There is a 12 step program I believe we are developing on this forum to help poor lost AutoCAD (ab)users to make the life altering change to ArchiCAD.

We just want you to know we are there for you when the time comes.

Gary Bley

Re: IFC Export to Revit Structures

Djordje — Sat, 19 Aug 2006 18:53:24 GMT

Correct.

RevitBuilding is 2x2; I am just trying the conversion and will report if it works at all ...

Re: IFC Export to Revit Structures

Laura Yanoviak — Mon, 30 Oct 2006 17:14:16 GMT

Djordje wrote:
Correct.

RevitBuilding is 2x2; I am just trying the conversion and will report if it works at all ...

Any update Djordje?

Re: IFC Export to Revit Structures

Djordje — Mon, 30 Oct 2006 17:32:50 GMT

Laura wrote:
Djordje wrote:
Correct.

RevitBuilding is 2x2; I am just trying the conversion and will report if it works at all ...
Any update Djordje?

No

New projects came in, Revit evaluation expired ... duh

Re: IFC Export to Revit Structures

Laura Yanoviak — Mon, 30 Oct 2006 17:50:00 GMT

Well, we're about to embark on a joint venture where the "Architect of Record" insists on using Revit -- so I'm sure I'll have some interesting stories to report...

Re: IFC Export to Revit Structures

Da3dalus — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:50:25 GMT

This is an old thread, but... any update, Laura or Djordje? We have some opportunities, but they would involve converting Revit models to ArchiCAD (or, forgive me, buy and learn Revit). It this market, we're looking to take any work we can get!

Re: IFC Export to Revit Structures

Laura Yanoviak — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 18:51:04 GMT

Da3dalus wrote:
This is an old thread, but... any update, Laura or Djordje? We have some opportunities, but they would involve converting Revit models to ArchiCAD (or, forgive me, buy and learn Revit). It this market, we're looking to take any work we can get!

The project mentioned was put on hold -- it's due to start up again soon. Initially, we were going to supply the Project Manager/Architect, and the other firm to provide the production staff. Now, we've hired someone with Revit experience (meanwhile laying off 3 people with AC experience) to work on the job.

On another Joint Venture project with a Revit firm (we're the Architect-of-Record), we're trying to avoid using Revit all together. The other firm will be writing the Specifications, and working on tasks involving the interior of the building (2D information, only) -- the consensus was that if we need to involve them in 3D work, they will come to our office and learn AC.

It's been a real hot topic around here, lately, with Revit being "the industry standard", and questioning whether or not we are using the right software. My stance is that AC is still the superior product (for now) and with IFC, interoperability shouldn't be a problem (we've worked successfully with firms using Revit Structure) -- we're successful with our current software, so why should we change? Because everyone else is using Revit.

Re: IFC Export to Revit Structures

Anonymous — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 20:36:51 GMT

Adalbert wrote:
A good article for your structural software consultant

http://aec.cadalyst.com/aec/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=312438

I am also looking for a structural software and I am inclined to use RISA the full package, including 3d, floor frame, concrete, base plate, footing, masonry and wood. It is approx $5,000

Note:
This is geting so simple that if Architects keep refusing to design structures will soon be delicenced from this aspect of the practice.

I am actualy using The RISA-3D, RisaFloor & RisaFoundation, they are greate and love them but they do not inport or export IFC & thats the killer. They are good in implementing IFC if they get some calls of intrest. So here is their info. and try talking with (tell them you use Archicad by Graphisoft":

Amber Freund, P.E.
RISA Technologies
Ph: 800.332.7472 or 949-951-5815
Fax: 949-951-5848
http://www.risatech.com/