topic Re: How to get Master Layout name as autotext in Collaboration with other software

How to get Master Layout name as autotext

Anonymous — Thu, 26 Aug 2021 11:58:37 GMT

Hi, with every new update I look for the possibility to retrieve the name of the used master layout as autotext on different layouts. I have also asked our local support service (Norway), but no luck.
I have made our office specific title block as a gdl-object, with text (mostly autotext) and lines, and then added the block to different master layouts (A1, A2, A3, A4, landscape and portrait). When we publish PDFs, the client sometimes prints A1 or A2 as A3 or A4, and this makes the scale wrong. Thus it would be nice to include the name of the master layout as autotext in our title block-object, to avoid any confusion. Is there a code to retrieve this? Everything else seems available, so maybe it's even possible to include this in a new build?

Regards
David
www.meter-as.no

Re: How to get Master Layout name as autotext

Barry Kelly — Fri, 27 Aug 2021 00:40:52 GMT

I don't see any auto text for master name or page size.
There is layout name, so you could use that and incorporate the page size in the layout name (has to be typed manually in the name).
The layout name could then be added to your tile block.

I actually organise my layouts in sets in groups relating to page size.
The parent folder has the page size as part of its name.
The individual layouts in that folder also have the page size as part of their name.

Because the layouts are in folders, I just create a 'shortcut' for the publisher set.
That way if I add new pages to the layout (or delete some), the publisher set updates automatically.
Whether I then publish the entire set or just individual pages, the page size will be included in the name of the published PDF.

Also should any layouts be moved in the layout list, you know exactly where they should be based on the name.

Barry.

Re: How to get Master Layout name as autotext

Anonymous — Fri, 27 Aug 2021 08:44:24 GMT

Thanks, Barry
I know it is possible to get the "Subset Name" as autotext, but we use an intricate system for the layout numbers, and they are usually derived from a sequence depending on the number of the subset (poorly explained, sorry...) - so that option is "taken".
I have noticed that it is possible to list the master layout name in the Project Index schedules. So obviously there must be a code that retrieves this, but I am not competent enough to know how to get this..

Regards
David

Re: How to get Master Layout name as autotext

Barry Kelly — Fri, 27 Aug 2021 09:15:55 GMT

DavidGulbrandsen wrote:
I have noticed that it is possible to list the master layout name in the Project Index schedules. So obviously there must be a code that retrieves this, but I am not competent enough to know how to get this..

That seems to be a field unique to the project indexes.
I can't see that it has any autotext equivalent.

i.e for the autotext of #Layout Name you can simply type standard text of <LAYOUTNAME> and it will convert to the autotext.
<LAYOUTNAME> is the GDL equivalent of the autotext - i.e. if you save autotext as an object.

I have tried all variations of <MASTERNAME>, <MASTERLAYOUT>, <MASTERLAYOUTNAME> etc., but nothing works.
I think just because there is not autotext for master layout name.

Barry.

Re: How to get Master Layout name as autotext

Anonymous — Fri, 27 Aug 2021 09:59:12 GMT

I also tried several versions of <PLEASE GIVE ME MASTER LAYOUT NAME!> to see if it popped up 😄

I also saved an XML version of the index to my desktop, opened it in a text editor to look for some code or a <POSSIBLY RELEVANT TEXT> string. I only found <Caption>Master Layout</Caption> and <Parameter_Desc_Name>Master Layout</Parameter_Desc_Name>. Neither works, of course..

Thanks anyway, Barry. It's obviously easy to just put a normal text saying "original format: A2" on the A2 master item itself. Will have to do for now!

David

Re: How to get Master Layout name as autotext

Jan Vlach — Mon, 06 Sep 2021 09:19:20 GMT

Thats how we deal with the problem too. But it is not very good solution as this needs to be updated every time new master layout gets created, I would love if master layouts would have ability to add clasification to them and that could then be listed on the layout.

Re: How to get Master Layout name as autotext

David Gulbrandsen — Fri, 10 Sep 2021 09:42:47 GMT

Thanks, Jan, totally agree. Any idea how to get the developers on line, it can't be too difficult to fix?

Regards

David

Re: How to get Master Layout name as autotext

Laszlo Nagy — Fri, 10 Sep 2021 13:57:33 GMT

You can make a wish for these features, we can vote on it and if it gets enough support, we can submit it to GRAPHISOFT for consideration.

If there are multiple wishes, please create separate topics for each.

If you do make wishes, please post their links in this thread.

Re: How to get Master Layout name as autotext

David Gulbrandsen — Mon, 13 Sep 2021 11:44:23 GMT

Thanks for the reply, Mr. Nagy.

I didn't quite understand how to gain the support needed, but I realize the "Collaborate Forum" might be the wrong place to add this wish.

Some years back I made the same wish:

https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Wishes-forum/Auto-text-calling-master-layout-name/td-p/171128

I think this one was in the right forum, but not too much response that time.

I also found the same wish from another user here:

https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Wishes-forum/Paper-Size-as-Autotext/m-p/305594#M18703

Should I repost this wish/request in the Wishes Forum?

AC since 2002

Re: How to get Master Layout name as autotext

Laszlo Nagy — Mon, 13 Sep 2021 15:23:53 GMT

Now, the links to those wishes are here in this thread so I do not think there is a need for a new wish. People can click the links and Like them. Until the new Wishes/Ideas function is implemented, Likes are how we vote for wishes in the new Community.

Re: How to get Master Layout name as autotext

furtonb — Mon, 13 Sep 2021 15:48:32 GMT

Until the new Wishes/Ideas function is implemented, Likes are how we vote for wishes in the new Community.

Who is going to separate between the cute cat GIFs and the useful wishes? Many comments are liked that are "just" opinions or funny/helpful content and have nothing to do with wishes. Gordana wrote, that sometime in the future wishes will get implemented again.

...I wonder why companies roll out new stuff with noticeable regressions over the existing solution.:(

Re: How to get Master Layout name as autotext

Minh Nguyen — Wed, 22 Sep 2021 13:28:00 GMT

Dear all,

Thank you very much for sharing your ideas regarding this wish!

I am happy to say we took notice of this wish and I have added it to our Wish List database (please refer to it as IDEA-4297). Hopefully, our Product Management team will adopt this one in the future.

Thank you all once more, and I wish you a great day!

Best regards,
Minh

Re: How to get Master Layout name as autotext

Erwin Edel — Wed, 22 Sep 2021 13:39:52 GMT

The easiest fix for me would be to add the 'Layout info scheme' to the master layouts too.

It is very easy to add things here and they automatically get added to the autotext fields.

Currently we set the page size for each layout individually, since we also use this for our layout index.

You can sort your layout with 'tree by master' and then quickly manually set all the page sizes. It's still a hassle though. Would be much preferred to setup the 'properties' of a master instead and leave layout specific things to the layout book.

Re: How to get Master Layout name as autotext

David Gulbrandsen — Thu, 23 Sep 2021 06:04:04 GMT

YESSS!!! 😄

Thank you so much, Nguyen! This is very good news!

Re: How to get Master Layout name as autotext

David Gulbrandsen — Tue, 24 May 2022 08:51:54 GMT

Hi, any updates on this?

Re: How to get Master Layout name as autotext

David Gulbrandsen — Tue, 26 Jul 2022 11:21:41 GMT

Seems like AC 26 has this feature, I just looked at the video on youtube:

https://youtu.be/1Atigka6-wc?t=180

I will have to wait for our local version to be downloaded, but i hope/think this was spot on!

Re: How to get Master Layout name as autotext

Laszlo Nagy — Tue, 26 Jul 2022 12:33:35 GMT

Yes, it does, there are seven new Layout and Master Layout-related Autotexts in Archicad 26:

Master Layout Height
Master Layout Name
Master Layout Width
Layout Number in Current Subset
Layout Number in Top Subset
Number of Layouts in Current Subset
Number of Layouts in Top Subset

Re: How to get Master Layout name as autotext

Jan Vlach — Wed, 03 Aug 2022 18:14:38 GMT

This is a good news, Im

Thanks, I'm glad this one got hammered out. There are so many small improvements that could make the life so much more comfortable.