topic Re: Missing model view option in Collaboration with other software

Missing model view option

Yvonne — Tue, 30 Aug 2022 07:10:24 GMT

Hello,

Not sure why model view options go missing - is this a bug?

This has happened to quite a few saved views and I haven't changed any settings within the model view options.

Re: Missing model view option

Barry Kelly — Tue, 30 Aug 2022 07:32:33 GMT

So you are saying when you go into the Model View settings, you have a MVO scheme called "02 Construction" ?

Barry.

Re: Missing model view option

Yvonne — Tue, 30 Aug 2022 07:34:35 GMT

yep that's right. This is what it looks like:

Re: Missing model view option

Barry Kelly — Tue, 30 Aug 2022 07:41:02 GMT

Have you been merging files, hot-linking files or working in team work?

The MVO schemes apparently now are referenced by a hidden ID number and not the name now.

So something has change the ID number of the MVO scheme - but I am not sure what that is.

Barry.

Re: Missing model view option

Algimantas Kuprenas — Tue, 30 Aug 2022 07:48:09 GMT

Maybe you imported Layouts through Organizer from another project ?

Re: Missing model view option

Yvonne — Tue, 30 Aug 2022 08:00:37 GMT

I do have hotlinks in the file and it is a teamwork file... maybe that's why. What is this mysterious ID number?

Re: Missing model view option

Yvonne — Tue, 30 Aug 2022 08:01:13 GMT

I haven't imported any layouts

Re: Missing model view option

Barry Kelly — Tue, 30 Aug 2022 08:06:37 GMT

MVO schemes used to be recognised by the name a few versions ago.

If you changed the name in any way all the MVOs in your views would become 'Missing'.

Now they are recognised by a hidden ID that we can not see.

So if you rename an MVO scheme, the views will not care and will show the new name.

I think it changed in version 23.

I asked about teamwork (Bimcloud) because others seem to be having similar issues.

Here is one such post.

https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Document-Visualize-forum/Missing-Model-View-Options/td-p/240830

I am not aware of a fix other than re-setting the MVO in the view settings.

But it may go missing again.

Barry.

Re: Missing model view option

Robert Nichols — Thu, 16 Mar 2023 02:34:19 GMT

This problem is the worst! It's so persistent, and has survived several AC upgrades. No insight yet, Graphisoft?

Re: Missing model view option

Leo_uy — Mon, 10 Jul 2023 20:04:33 GMT

Having this issue from 24... first thing i was told, that my SPA language was creating the problem, then when we start using INT version the problem persisted (even in new projects).

Deleting MVO and creating new ones doesn't solve the issue, just a huge waste of time as checking views one by one every time you publish to be sure everything looks right.

Making an Index to check the MVO its another waste of time, the index will never show if it's missing and if you are hoping to make an index to group a lot of views with the same mvo and change it all at once... you just can't. You can't group. You can't change all the same mvo from an index at once.

My lucky guess is that the hidden id thing has nothing to do with this issue, because as i was saying i have this problem from 24, 25 and now 26.... and it's kind of frustrating this huge work-flow hog in a 4k USD program.

2.15.0.0

Re: Missing model view option

LucaP — Thu, 16 Jan 2025 08:56:21 GMT

Hi,

I've encountered similar behavior (on a TW File) and after some investigation I thought that I've found the cause of this (issue with accidental MVO changes without reserving them).

Here you can find a discussion about it: Re: Missing Model View Options - Graphisoft Community

What is strange - I've got a response that there supposed to be a fix for it in AC 25 update 4, AC 26 update 2 and AC 27. You seem to be working on AC 26 - perhaps you need to update your AC (?). Keep in mind the solution mentioned by Laura Yanoviak in above-mentioned discussion - for files created in previous builds (cumbersome process of Open and Repair, manual MVO fixing and resharing TW file...)

Re: Missing model view option

ryejuan — Thu, 16 Jan 2025 10:10:59 GMT

Thanks for sharing, let me try that approach in saving and repairing the file... Not sure if the cause of it is the template that was carried over from version 20 and was upgraded as version release comes...

Am also using the latest updates for Archicad 27... Still contemplating if I want to shift this project to Archicad 28 though...